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Old December 24, 2010, 04:06 PM   #1
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3 Coyotes Today!

I haven't been out much for predators this year, I spent a lot of time getting my deer rifle set up to shoot longer range. So my free time has mostly been spent shooting that rifle. After elk season I haven't had much time to go out, but today my partner and I headed out for a half day of calling. We had a new spot in mind that we thought would be good and it payed off.

We were on stand when the sun came up and about ten minutes in this female came screaming in from my side. Man she was screaming, I had my rifle and Casey had his shotgun so I was gonna let her fly by me and let the shotgun do the dirty work. She got to about ten yards from me, hard charging the foxpro/decoy but then she hit the brakes. I assumed she must have seen Casey raise up and that he was on her, but he didn't shoot and she lit out the way she came. So I dropped her on the way out, at maybe thirty yards. Turns out he saw her as she was hitting the brakes and thought I was gonna get her. I did:

At the end of stand 1, Casey saw either a small coyote or more likely fox take off as he stood up. It got away. On the way to stand two we saw one cross the road, so we made stand 2 right there.

Stands 2-4 were dry. Stand 5 Casey saw one pop in and leave at about 15 minutes, no shots fired.

Stand 6 we were in more open country so we both had rifles, Casey had only killed one coyote with his AR (specifically for predators) so it really needed some action. At maybe 3-4 minutes I heard him shoot, the again, then again, then again... he hit it every time but it wouldn't stay down. He hit it low the first time, but had several nasty wounds. We are both surprised he needed 4 shots. Here's coyote #2 with the AR:

Stand 7 was to be our last, and we made it count. Again, at 3-4 minutes I here Casey shoot...then again, and again. Again, first shot was low and he needed more. He was shooting 40gr v-max from the .223, he's thinking about some heavier bullets. They did make a pretty good mess, but both dogs needed extra shots. Regardless, we got them. Casey's first dog was a young male but this fella was a little bigger:


So in all we made 7 stands, saw 5 dogs, killed 3. This was our first 3-dog day together. We've only been at it a couple years but we're improving!
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Old December 24, 2010, 05:21 PM   #2
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Old December 24, 2010, 05:26 PM   #3
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huntinaz,
Looks like you and Casey had a pretty good day.
My favorite hunting is calling coyotes. I have an old Johnny Stewart cassette caller, it still works pretty good but it sure is heavy.
Because of that I rely more on mouth blown calls and have been doing well with them, I'm up to 19 kills this year.
I have considered buying a Foxpro caller so I can use some different sounds for the coyotes that will hang up on the mouth blown calls.
What model of caller are you using?
I still use a 223 some but I like the 22-250 or 243 better.
Every coyote I shot with the 223 using 45 gr bullets I had to shoot twice to anchor them.
Good luck on your calling.
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Old December 24, 2010, 07:00 PM   #4
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Yeah we had a good day. I blow mouth calls when I'm not with Casey and do pretty well. Casey's foxpro is pretty slick though. He has the older Scorpion model and we both like it a lot. I was on Foxpro's website the other day, the new Scorpion is $350 new and comes with a bunch of sounds and they have a new program that switches to a pre-set sound when you shoot (usually pup distress). The Spitfire is only $200, but only holds 24 sounds at a time. Pretty good deal, they are good calls. I think if I end up getting one I'll get the new model Scorpion. That's a lotta call for the money.

And yeah, I use my deer rifle chambered in .243 and I love the way is floors them. I hit the one bad today too (guts), but it didn't go anywhere but down. I didn't have to shoot again.
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Old January 5, 2011, 12:44 AM   #5
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Calling coyotes is my favorite type of hunting as well. Having that second person along really helps but I'm almost always alone.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who has trouble dropping them with the 40 gr vmax. Started using my 25-06 about a year and a half ago and haven't had any trouble since.

I was out this past saturday and did a couple sets. First one was in open pasture overlooking a lot of rolling draws and terrain change. I never seem to have much luck sitting out in the pastures like that and it didn't change this time. Next set was a couple miles away down in a river bottom. Walked in about 3/4 of a mile and set up in a small weed patch with soybean stubble to the south, abandoned farm yard to the east about 125 yds, river line south of me about 500 yds. I brought the 223 because I really didn't figure on bringing a coyote across the open bean ground; was thinking more about pulling a cat out of the old yard. After letting it cool down I started squeaking. Sun was just setting and I see what looks like a coyote about 400 yds from me so I hold tight. We had a staring contest for a while before I lost and thought maybe it wasn't a coyote since it hadn't moved. (failing light equal lower visibility) I raised my rifle nice and slow to glass it and didn't even get it to my shoulder. "Damn", I said aloud as I watched him turn 90* to the right and head for a bend in the river. I squeaked and squawked a bit more but apparently he and his friends were just sitting tight laughing at me!

I learn something more every time I go calling. This time I learned to stare longer.....
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Old January 5, 2011, 12:37 PM   #6
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I hunted coyotes in AZ for 14 years, and had much better luck with the heavier bullets. I shot the 64 gr WW PP bullets in my 22/250 under 38 grains of Accurate 4350, and it killed them like the hammer of Thor and printed dime sized groups at 100 yards. Worked well in my 223 VS as well with the 26 inch barrel, not sure if it will stabilize in a shorter barrel but should be great in an 1 in 9 twist AR. Found I called a lot more doubles with the 223 VS, that 26 inch barrel keeps the sound way down. Some of my favorite hunting grounds are gone now, thanks to urban sprawl. Always liked the area North West of Wickenburg, down by Picacho Peak and East of Florence.
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Old January 5, 2011, 10:26 PM   #7
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Well I shot #20 yesterday afternoon.
I closed the shop around 3:30pm got into my camo gear, put on the camo face paint and headed out.
I had to drive about three miles then hike in on foot about a half mile to where I wanted to make my hide.
I got into position and all set-up a little after 4pm.
Just to the south of me was a brushy creek bottom, I was setting with my back against a nice size tree and was facing north.
There was a stand of young sapplings to my east they extended about 30 yards out into a picked bean field that was northeast of me.
Northwest of me was another part of the picked bean field, the bean field was split by a wooded draw about 400 yards long and 20 yards wide that ran north and south and ended at the creek behind me. I figured the coyotes used this draw to transverse the bean field to get to the creek.
I started calling about 4:25pm, I always like to wait about 20 minutes after I'm in position before I start calling.
Ten minutes into calling a big male clears the sapplings to my east, is about 40 yards from me moving at a full run when I squeeze the trigger on the 22-250, he flipped head over heels and was dead when he came to a stop.
I continued calling until a little after 5:00pm then I packed up and headed back to my truck.
It looks like it's going to be pretty windy the next few days so it will be awhile before I get to go again.
Good luck to all.
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Old January 7, 2011, 11:13 PM   #8
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Nice job! Congrats on the dogs!
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Old January 8, 2011, 10:04 PM   #9
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Eastern Coyotes (South Carolina, North Pee Dee Region)

I just started coyote hunting, well I call it that, haven't seen anything yet. On my frist trip I called in a hawk. I've been watching the calling videos but most of them are filmed out west where you can see tomorrow to the east and yesterday to the west. I hear coyotes almost every night but nothing while the sun is up. Right now I have about 100 acres I can hunt. I go about every two weeks and try calling guess I'm giving them a rest maybe, dunno (read that somewhere on the www.com) I have those Primos Randy Anderson mouth calls, I can howl at night and get a response. Every dog in five miles joins in then porch lights start coming on. I bought a Fox Pro Spitfire for my Christmas present. Still no luck.

How many stands or setup can a guy make on 100 acres?

Anyone have any tips on SC coyotes?
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Old January 9, 2011, 12:07 AM   #10
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Old January 9, 2011, 09:35 AM   #11
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awbrock,
I don't know what the coyote videos have to say, but one of the most important things I've learned about coyote hunting is that it's very important to slip in as quite and undetected as possible to where you are going to make your set-up.
I also believe when you are done it's just as important to do the same when you leave.
I try if possible to never travel along ridge tops especially in more open country and only cross them when abosolutely necessary.
I like to travel the draws, ditches, and creek or river bottoms to get to where I'm going to make my set-ups.
Practicing good still hunting skills is a big plus when moving to position.
I also like to wait about 20 minutes after I'm in position before I start calling, this gives things a chance to settle down.

As for how many set-ups you can make on 100 acres that would depend a lot on the lay of the land. A 100 acres is not all that big and I would limited my self to a couple at most.
I don't feel the quanity of set-ups is as important as the quality of the set-ups.
I believe it's very important to scout an area thourghly and choose what I feel might be the best place to make a set-up. At that time you can pre-plan your approach
Hunting during prime times also helps with success, I prefer to go early morning or late afternoon on most days.
However if you have a day when the coyotes seem to be out and about on the move all day, then hunting all day can be productive.

Make sure you are well camoflaged, once in position try to stay as still as possible and I like to try and keep the wind in my face.
I also like to set with my back against a good size tree when possible.
I don't like to over work a place so I limit my amount of set-ups at each place to three or four in a season.
Most ranchers and farmers are glad to get rid of the coyotes so ask around to try and get more places to hunt, maybe place an ad explaining what your are doing in the local feed stores will help.
I was filling my truck with gas the other evening after hunting, I was still in my hunting clothes and had my face paint on. There was a gentleman there filling his truck and we struck up a conversation about hunting. I told him what I was doing and he gave me his phone number and said to come over to his place because he had some coyotes he wanted rid of, this has happened to me more then once.

I wish you the best of luck in your hunting and once you get the first one that comes to the call you will most likely be hooked, I know I was.

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Old January 10, 2011, 07:10 PM   #12
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I've been watching the calling videos but most of them are filmed out west where you can see tomorrow to the east and yesterday to the west. I hear coyotes almost every night but nothing while the sun is up. Right now I have about 100 acres I can hunt. I go about every two weeks and try calling guess I'm giving them a rest maybe, dunno (read that somewhere on the www.com) I have those Primos Randy Anderson mouth calls, I can howl at night and get a response. Every dog in five miles joins in then porch lights start coming on. I bought a Fox Pro Spitfire for my Christmas present.
Open country is conducive to filming so that's why the videos are in open stuff. I hunt the thick stuff all the time, those things will come right to you. They can't see thru the brush either, so they have to get close to see what's going on. I'd take a guess that upwards of 85% of the coyotes I've killed have been at less than 100 yards. I like to walk in thru cover from the downwind side. You might put the caller upwind a short ways. Coyotes will often (but definitely not always) circle downwind. However, my experience is that more often than not they just come from wherever they happen to be and start to circle usually between 50-100 yards. Sometimes they don't circle at all, sometimes their circles are much wider and they bust me. I've had pretty good luck with rabbit and bird sounds from a foxpro, and very good luck with the Primos Lil' dog set. I blow rabbit and fawn distress with them, rarely howl (I suck at it).
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Old January 10, 2011, 11:57 PM   #13
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CONGRATS WELL DONE.Heres a couple more to go with yours a BLACK one with a SAIGA 308.& a gray with a AR 15 223 in ATHENS GA.
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Old January 11, 2011, 02:18 PM   #14
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Nice, that black one looks awesome! It is my understanding that we don't get black ones here in AZ. I've seen some red ones though.
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Old January 11, 2011, 03:16 PM   #15
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Way to put'em down. I need to thin out the pack at our farm. It won't be long before that is all there is to do for awhile till crappie start up.
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Old January 11, 2011, 03:44 PM   #16
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nice work

good lookin' dogs too.
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Old January 11, 2011, 08:29 PM   #17
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Thanks huntinAZ,there aint that many black ones here either.I could'nt get him to come in with a call,but a gut pile messed him up.I'm like DRT300 if it was'nt for hogs & dogs I wouldnt have anything to chase till the flathead catfish start hitting love them 40 & 50 lbs'ers
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Old January 12, 2011, 12:07 AM   #18
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Here's the first coyote I ever called In shot it A couple weeks ago, I was sitting beside that tree In the background

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Old January 12, 2011, 12:27 AM   #19
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Nice! We have year round open season on coyotes here. They are everywhere. What kind of call did you use?
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Old January 12, 2011, 09:00 AM   #20
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Ya we have a year round season here in southern Ontario too. I called her in with a haydells baby jackrabbit call.

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Old January 17, 2011, 03:11 PM   #21
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Picked off a couple more, the counts up to 22 now.
I sure wish they were worth something again, but they are not so most of the time I don't even take them home.
As for our season, we lose out on a lot of good coyote hunting in Missouri because of the deer season.
Of course the MDC does not make any extra money off of coyote hunters like they do deer hunters, so I doubt things will improve.
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Old January 17, 2011, 04:06 PM   #22
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Hagar wrote:

I hunted coyotes in AZ for 14 years, and had much better luck with the heavier bullets. I shot the 64 gr WW PP bullets in my 22/250 under 38 grains of Accurate 4350, and it killed them like the hammer of Thor and printed dime sized groups at 100 yards. Worked well in my 223 VS as well with the 26 inch barrel, not sure if it will stabilize in a shorter barrel but should be great in an 1 in 9 twist AR. Found I called a lot more doubles with the 223 VS, that 26 inch barrel keeps the sound way down. Some of my favorite hunting grounds are gone now, thanks to urban sprawl. Always liked the area North West of Wickenburg, down by Picacho Peak and East of Florence.

I handloaded some 64gr Power Points and shot them through a Bushmaster "AK shorty" (14.5" with an AK-74 muzzle break) and consistently grouped 3 shot .75" spreads. I shot maybe a dozen 3 shot groups without cleaning and they were all 3/4 inch. I probably could have pulled tighter spreads but was using a cheapie 4X scope and the reticle was larger than the bullseye.
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