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Old December 19, 2010, 11:26 PM   #1
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Anyone else like 'great war' arms ?.

That's WW1 to the layman.
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Old December 20, 2010, 01:39 AM   #2
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Ya I like those and my 1917 Enfield is one of my favorite rifles mostly for the history and for the awesome price of $160 less than 2 yrs ago. I also love the other WWI stuff I have such as a 1903 Springfield bayonet in scabbard, doughboy helmet, and a belt with canteen, cup, cover and a mag pouch. I did have 2 of the 1917 bolo knives as well. I also have a german demag bayonet, a real one that cost me more than my 1917 rifle. Unfortunately, I somehow unluckily missed out on my great uncles 1917 artillery luger with shoulder stock.

There is just something about great war artifacts, no matter what they are. Its hard to explain. Between their age, the fact that the US was not involved for that long and that it seems much less popular than the civil war or WWII, its just more appealing to me in many ways but my favorite war (how about that as an oxymoron) is still WWII.
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Old December 20, 2010, 06:15 AM   #3
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I like them very much ...


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Old December 20, 2010, 06:17 AM   #4
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ZEN.45 that is one SWEET collection.
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Old December 20, 2010, 11:31 AM   #5
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Nice Lebel Zen...is that an MP40 sling on the gew98 ?. Love to see more pics of the gew98 as well..they are my favorite.
I thought I had pics of my Patt'14 and 1911 SMLE...... bet they are on my old PC dang it !.
Anyhow here's a few odds and ends.
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Old December 20, 2010, 12:36 PM   #6
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Yes I love 'em, especially the Mauser!

I have 5 Mausers from that era, what beautiful guns.
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Old December 20, 2010, 02:46 PM   #7
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Yes I love 'em, especially the Mauser!

I have 5 Mausers from that era, what beautiful guns.............

.............. Simon , I agree they are my favorite.








And this is just a small bit of the couple dozen that habitate my safe(s).
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Old December 20, 2010, 10:02 PM   #8
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Yup. 1918 Colt Model of 1911. Photogenic pistol, with the new grips. I used this angle because it's harder to see the wear!

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Old December 20, 2010, 11:40 PM   #9
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Russian Revolvers?

Nice collection guys! I have a question, several years ago, I read The Romanofs..In the chapter telling of the execution at Ekaterinburg, it mentioned the solders firing "heavy caliber revolvers" Now the little 7.62 Nagant could hardly be called "heavy". Could it be that some were still using the old 19th centruy S&W Russian contract revolvers? I have never seen this mentioned before. Thanks!
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Old December 21, 2010, 07:40 AM   #10
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Here are some from my small collection: A Kar.98AZ, M1903 Mark I, Berthier-Mannlicher Mousqueton d'Artillerie Mle. 1916, and a SMLE Mk.III.
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Old December 21, 2010, 09:39 AM   #11
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So you WERE Tammy in the Mousqueton club on TV!

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Old December 21, 2010, 11:29 AM   #12
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Who's the leader of the club that's made for you and me?

Bee-ee-ar, tee-aytch-eye...
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Old December 21, 2010, 12:27 PM   #13
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I was thinking more like the Revolution.
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Old December 21, 2010, 04:34 PM   #14
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Some more great war P r 0 n for those that care...
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Old December 22, 2010, 09:33 AM   #15
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I was thinking more like the Revolution.
Huh?
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Old December 22, 2010, 02:03 PM   #16
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Wee bit more for now.
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Old December 22, 2010, 02:56 PM   #17
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What would you guys say are two or three of the more inexpensive but good starts to a WWI collection?
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Old December 22, 2010, 06:28 PM   #18
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Like Great War arms?

Would having a 1917 SMLE, 1917 Swede 96, and a 1917 Webley Mk VI count?
If so, then YES!

Also, Mauser Broomhandle, P.08, and Savage 1910 .32, although not of Great War years production.
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Old December 22, 2010, 10:28 PM   #19
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Well for sure a 17 smelly and webley count...but a swede not so much as all those rifles did during that time was guard fondu.
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Old December 22, 2010, 10:31 PM   #20
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What would you guys say are two or three of the more inexpensive but good starts to a WWI collection?
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A good start for the money... well SMLE's are still about fairly cheap from that era unless it's matching and unmolested , at which point they can get very expensive fast.
There still is a fair number of gew98's around in various mismatch conditions at a fair price.
Patt'14 and Mod1917 rifles are fairly plentiful in shooter conditions that are not terribly expensive.
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Old December 23, 2010, 02:08 PM   #21
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...but a swede not so much as all those rifles did during that time was guard fondu.
Yes, but they did it WELL!
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Old December 23, 2010, 04:07 PM   #22
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What would you guys say are two or three of the more inexpensive but good starts to a WWI collection?
French rifles (Lebels and Berthiers) will probably be the cheapest, but hard to find. It's not too hard to find Mosins with a receiver that has the proper date, but they were almost all modified by the Russkies or Finns and so it's hard to find one still in its Great War configuration.

WWI-vintage SMLEs and Gew.98's are easier to find, but a lot more expensive.

Unaltered WWI M1903 prices have become downright obscene.
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Old December 23, 2010, 06:47 PM   #23
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Tam' I don't see 86/93 lebels for sale too often and they tend to be priced over $350 even with a mismatched bolt. Berthiers not terribly much different but they seem a bit hard to find in original trim.
turk used gew98's can usualy be found around the $200 mark and I have seen shooter grade SMLE with WW1 dated sockets about the same as well.
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Old December 23, 2010, 09:04 PM   #24
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Tam' I don't see 86/93 lebels for sale too often...
Yup, which is why I said "...hard to find."

If you're finding WWI SMLEs for three bills or less, well, good on you.
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Old December 23, 2010, 11:19 PM   #25
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If you're finding WWI SMLEs for three bills or less, well, good on you.

I come across them in that price range .. but I won't touch them as I don't collect mismatch and or import marked rifles . A matched great war SMLE pre 1916 w/volley & cutoff that is matching , unmolested post issue in any kind of decent shape will be a big ticket item... pretty much any great war rifle will in those conditions.
It's actually easier to find matched unmolested german rifles than it is to find those matched SMLE's or Lebels for obvious reasons.
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