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Old December 18, 2010, 08:34 PM   #1
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pa capacity law

so as far as i know there isnt a limit to the number of rounds one can have in their firearm when carried with a permit in pa.. the other day someone tried to convince me that i was wrong and have been illegal in my carry (17 rds). anyone know that pa law for sure????

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Old December 18, 2010, 08:35 PM   #2
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I never heard of it and I have a permit.....Hmmmmm
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Old December 18, 2010, 08:37 PM   #3
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neither have i and his info came from a police officer,,,,supposedly
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Old December 18, 2010, 10:23 PM   #4
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PGC range rules; PA ammunition laws...

To my understanding, the Keystone state has no laws or city ordanances re; handgun ammunition.
I'd look over atty; David Wong's guide to gun & knife laws or go to the NRA: www.NRA.org .
One PA location that DOES have special laws are the PA Game Commission ranges, .
They state in the range rules you can only fire 6 rounds or less.

I found that out the hard way in 1999.
The PGC or the state elected officals may have changed the range laws but I highly doubt it.
The only serious gun laws in PA apply to Philadelphia.
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Old December 18, 2010, 10:30 PM   #5
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Try this...

I used to live in New Hope (Bucks County) and never heard anything about that sort of restriction. Granted, that was 12 years ago.

A quick internet search just yielded this:
http://www.pafoa.org/law
Haven't looked through it, but it might have your answer.
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Old December 18, 2010, 10:59 PM   #6
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neither have i and his info came from a police officer,,,,supposedly
Supposedly?


I live in PA, and have had a carry permit since the early 80's, and I've never heard of anything of the sort either.

I dont put a whole lot of faith in what the cops "say" either, let alone someone who got their info from one.
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Old December 18, 2010, 11:00 PM   #7
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I've never seen a new PA approved gun for sale, like Cali.
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Old December 18, 2010, 11:16 PM   #8
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No capacity restriction in PA when carrying concealed. As mentioned, the only restriction on capacity enforced by law or regulation is through the Pennsylvania Game Commission for their public ranges and when hunting.

This is from another cop so take it as "supposedly" if you like
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Old December 18, 2010, 11:42 PM   #9
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Anyone who tells you there's a capacity limit in PA is blowing a bunch of hot air at you. So far as I'm aware the only states which won't let you carry magazines with over X number of rounds in them also ban the sale and possession of said mags.

Not a lawyer though, so have a grain of salt with that...

People will tell you all sorts of weird things about guns and gun laws. They probably learned most of them on TV... if most of the crime dramas on air are to be believed, you can't own an unregistered gun anywhere in the country and God help you if you load it with those evil cop-killing hollowpoints!

I wouldn't be half surprised if the person who told you that you couldn't have a 17-round mag was from NJ... there is a capacity limit in effect on the East side of the Delaware- 15 rounds IIRC.
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Old December 19, 2010, 08:39 AM   #10
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This is from another cop so take it as "supposedly" if you like
No offense if youre one of the minority here, but its been my experience that most local township/boro cops really are not up on a lot of things, and dont have all the answers, as much as they like to think they do. The badge doesnt magically give them to them either.

One thing I have noticed since moving away from the SE PA insanity is, the State Troopers seem more up on things, are much more reasonable to deal with, and dont seem to be on the power trips many of the township cops are. They also dont seem to be in the CS revenue racket the township cops are. Its a lot cheaper (and more fun) to drive where radar rules the roads.

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I wouldn't be half surprised if the person who told you that you couldn't have a 17-round mag was from NJ... there is a capacity limit in effect on the East side of the Delaware- 15 rounds IIRC.
If youre down that way, this very well could be the source of what you heard.
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Old December 19, 2010, 10:08 AM   #11
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Next door, NY State yes! But not PA.
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Old December 19, 2010, 10:39 AM   #12
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I'm not sure about PA, but it's something I have to worry about in Virginia if carrying openly.

Even though standard capacity magazines are legal here, we can't carry openly a pistol or rifle with a magazine that holds more than 20 rounds in the magazine. (Shotguns are 7 rounds, I think.) Concealed carry holders are exempt, though. Obviously, this doesn't apply to someone on their own property or at a shooting range.

Definitely call the PA State Police and check.
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Old December 19, 2010, 10:11 PM   #13
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AK103K,
No offense taken, I couldn't agree with you more and I'm a township cop. I have no tolerance for that kind of attitude in a fellow police officer and can only apologize for some jerk who probably shouldn't be wearing a badge instilling that way of thinking in you:barf:

Just for the sake of not looking like the misinformed cop that started this mess, I thumbed through the Pa crimes code and could not find anything related to magazine capacity. The only thing specifically related to ammunition is "Certain bullets prohibited" 18 Pa.C.S. Subsection 6121 which states that it is unlawful to possess, use or attempt to use "KTW Teflon-coated bullet or armor-piercing ammunition while committing or attempting to commit a crime of violence". It is a Felony 3 and tacks on a mandatory 5 years to your sentence and takes away your eligibility for parole. So unless you're planning on committing a violent crime with this ammo, you'll be fine and even then the magazine capacity of your gun wouldn't be an issue

Unless someone can find anything else, I see no magazine restrictions in Pa unless your hunting (and then that's only with the gun you're hunting with) or on a PGC public shooting range.
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Old December 19, 2010, 10:32 PM   #14
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Don't ask the PSP about gun laws. They really aren't versed in them all that well. PA does not have a permit, we have a License To Carry Firearms. The LTCP provides for more that just concealed carry. The place to learn PA gun laws is here: http://forum.pafoa.org/ This is the main forum, the link provided previously will lead to some faq's about the laws.

Read the stickies here http://forum.pafoa.org/general-2/ Browse the forums, use the search feature and find a wealth of information on the laws. Good luck.

There are no mag capacity laws, other than the already mentioned Game Commission ones.

Edit: pafoa = Pennsylvania Firearms Owners Association. A lot of people well versed in PA gun laws. Also some a$$'s......
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Old December 20, 2010, 08:06 PM   #15
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No offense taken, I couldn't agree with you more and I'm a township cop. I have no tolerance for that kind of attitude in a fellow police officer and can only apologize for some jerk who probably shouldn't be wearing a badge instilling that way of thinking in you
OfficerJohnson10, you are a credit to the profession and a breath of fresh air from the LEO community. Proud to know you're out there.

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Old December 20, 2010, 08:08 PM   #16
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I live in PA, no such restriction.
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