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Old December 15, 2010, 09:59 AM   #1
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Generally, what are the most dangerous places?

Basically, if you carry, or even if you don't, in what situations are you most concerned about someone possibly holding you up at gunpoint? For me, I get most concerned at:

ATM machines
Gas stations
Rest Areas at night (sometimes, if I'm traveling late at night I have to pull over and snooze for 15 - 30 minutes)

Others???
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Old December 15, 2010, 10:10 AM   #2
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I would say neighborhoods in cities that you already know are dangerous. Stay out.
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Old December 15, 2010, 10:14 AM   #3
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Poorly lit parking lots with low traffic flow. Especially outside of a bar/restaurant.
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Old December 15, 2010, 10:17 AM   #4
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For street crime?

ATMs, convenience stores, Public Parks, in or adjacent to "the bad parts of town".

For Terrorism/Active shooters?

Schools, Shopping Malls, Sporting Events, or any other place where firearms are prohibited, but real armed security is absent.
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Old December 15, 2010, 10:20 AM   #5
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Convenience stores after 11pm.
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Old December 15, 2010, 10:31 AM   #6
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I'd say gas stations after 9:00 PM
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Old December 15, 2010, 10:45 AM   #7
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Old December 15, 2010, 11:03 AM   #8
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1) The outskirts of my school campus (including where I walk to my car every night). Lots of armed robberies around here, but no shooting deaths. I keep a fake wallet, keep my head on a swivel, and hope for the best until (if?) they change school policy...

2) On the road home at night. No issues in the 5 years I've been making the trip, but the roads are not the best lighted, and I sit at many deserted stop lights.
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Old December 15, 2010, 11:14 AM   #9
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Old December 15, 2010, 11:22 AM   #10
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Frankly, I have never been to a place that genuinely concerned me. The only crimes around here are the occasional bank or gas station robbery. So, I guess if I had to pick a place it would be one of those but, truly, I don't consider any place that I go to be even slightly dangerous.
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Old December 15, 2010, 11:32 AM   #11
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Old December 15, 2010, 11:37 AM   #12
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If you can't understand in English what the folks / customers are saying, go immediately to your car and leave. Some spots in Amerika are a lot like dropping into some other-world country, many of which are unsafe for U.S. folks at least some of the time. Don't let any near-by persons know that you are CCW, until ... Merry Christmas. .444
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Old December 15, 2010, 11:40 AM   #13
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My workplace.
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Old December 15, 2010, 11:44 AM   #14
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If you can't understand in English what the folks / customers are saying, go immediately to your car and leave. Some spots in Amerika are a lot like dropping into some other-world country, many of which are unsafe for U.S. folks at least some of the time.
Amerika?

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US folks?:barf:

Gee I wonder how dangerous Little Tokyo is in LA, or your local Korea Town is?


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Old December 15, 2010, 11:50 AM   #15
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There are predators everywhere. If you act like prey, you will attract predators. Not that predators won't prey on other predators, they just look for the ones acting scared or careless, you never want to take on a fire-eater.
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Old December 15, 2010, 11:55 AM   #16
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Liquor Stores, banks, Family Dollar, KFC, Popeye's, Church's, Waffle House, anything with "Lounge" in the name.
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Old December 15, 2010, 12:31 PM   #17
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The places that prohibit carry.
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Old December 15, 2010, 12:54 PM   #18
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New Orleans. Over by the casino at night, in particular.

Considering that's the only place where I have been held up at gunpoint, it certainly makes my list.

I'll second convenience stores in the evening, had an interesting experience in one of those as well (http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...hlight=witness), but sometimes a guy gets hard up for a pack of smokes and a soda past sunset and just can't avoid it. Walking into a gas station at any time of day is not particularly daunting for me. Heck, I used to work overnight shifts at a decrepit little stop-n-rob when I was younger and lived to tell the tale. But it's a good idea to keep your eyes open.
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Old December 15, 2010, 01:12 PM   #19
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ATM's and night deposit boxes,,,

My ex had a job managing a small retail business that closed at midnight,,,
Her district manager insisted she (or whoever closed) make a night deposit.

The bank the company used was not in the best part of town.

I wrote to corporate headquarters about that practice,,,
I even took pictures of the seedy night time environment,,,
They still insisted that the night's cash could not be left in the store safe.

So I always picked her up at the store and escorted her to the deposit box,,,
I would exit the car and give the area a good scan for problems,,,
Then she would get out and use the key to make the deposit,,,
On several occasions a person would walk towards us,,,
A six-cell MagLight in their eyes always worked,,,
Never needed to present the .357 I carried.

I did tell her district manager that if she ever got hurt,,,
Don't bother coming to the hospital,,,
Just leave town, quickly.

I was a much more volatile person back then,,,
I'm very mellow in my old age.

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Old December 15, 2010, 01:37 PM   #20
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i get robbed everytime i go to an attorney's office.
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Old December 15, 2010, 01:38 PM   #21
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The places that prohibit carry.
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Old December 15, 2010, 02:14 PM   #22
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When your girlfriend's husband comes home unexpectedly?

The Petit family thought they were safe in surburbia. The Mumbai folks thought they were safe in a luxury hotel. The folks in the Pentagon didn't think an airplane would hit them.

Who knows. I do grant you that ATMs and convenience stores late at night are to be avoided. Otherwise, it is where the bad guy is and they can be anywhere. That's why one should have the ability and be reasonably prepared.
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Old December 15, 2010, 05:53 PM   #23
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I'm most alert at the majority of ATMs and drive-thru lanes at restaurants. I use only ATMs that are on busy main streets, not the ones that are put on the side streets, but I am still on high alert. I also don't like the drive-thru lanes that don't offer an out if need be, and refuse to use them at all if busy. We have a poorly designed Tim Horton's here, and I mostly go in. I also do my biking in good weather generally after midnight here in town, but I'm always armed, and I'm starting to see many more that are doing the same.
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Old December 15, 2010, 06:58 PM   #24
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I did tell her district manager that if she ever got hurt,,,
Don't bother coming to the hospital,,,
Just leave town, quickly.
I would have loved to have seen the look on their face and/or heard what they said after you said that!
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Old December 15, 2010, 06:59 PM   #25
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Besides the locations already mentioned, I would think any part of town covered in graffiti. Often indicates gang or gang-wannabe presence, and that the local shave given up trying to keep it clean. They probably gave up on self defense, too. Not everyone perhaps, but enough the hoodlums are not shy about spraying every object that doesn't move in less than an hour.

I don't live in or often visit a large city, but I am always stunned when I happen through a section of a city that suddenly becomes covered in graffiti as high as a person can reach: store fronts, fences, mailboxes, signs, etc. Either folks just plain got tired of painting over the trash, or they are scared to remove it. Either way it seems would not ode well for personal safety. Street trash and debris also seem to pile up in these same areas.
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