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Old December 9, 2010, 08:11 PM   #1
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Showing a Shotgun Off

My friend Jr. loves shotguns. Here is his 12 ga double Flintlock. Can you
imiagine holding this and shooting it?

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Old December 9, 2010, 08:18 PM   #2
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I had a .50 caliber flintlock blue ridge rifle and it depends on how much powder you use. An average load for that gun was 70 grains of FF (as i recall) which wasn't too bad. I imagine a shotgun might be tossing out more lead and might use more powder too.

That is one beautiful piece of wood there too. I wonder what it is?
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Old December 9, 2010, 09:21 PM   #3
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Nice looking shotgun! I imagine it is a real pleasure to shoot - it looks like it just "melt" into your arms. I love flint. I've built several custom flint rifles and have a Fusil de Chase - 20 gauge. It's a sweet shooting gun - either round ball or shot. I've taken some ducks with it and it was a thrill to "hit them on the wing". For some reason, people think that flintlocks are a mystery and cantankerous - couldn't be further from the truth. A good flinter with a touchhole properly placed in relation to the pan can provide super fast ignition. In fact, I'd much rather shoot a flinter - either rifle or smoothbore - than a caplock and expecially more than those new fangled cartridge guns. Your friend has a beautiful piece - thanks so much for sharing ti with us. I hope he lets you shoot it as well?!
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Old December 9, 2010, 10:09 PM   #4
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Absolutely gorgeous!
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Old December 10, 2010, 12:16 AM   #5
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Now that I've cleaned all the drool off of my keyboard and from down the front of my shirt, I can uncategorically state that that is one beautiful scattergun. I've always wanted a flintlock double.

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Old December 10, 2010, 09:38 AM   #6
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Oh man, I love it! I've only seen one other double flintlock - the owner of Dave's Pawn here in Helena..... Dave, I think his name is...
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Old December 10, 2010, 11:32 AM   #7
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Here's my take on flintlocks.
I felt, a few years back, that my life would be complete if I could just own a 38 caliber flintlock rifle.
I searched for several months before I found a Pedersoli in 36 that was close enough.
My first impression was that I had never seen a new rifle in such poor condition. Wood was poor and wood to metal fit was terrible. No problem, I wanted a shooter. I didn't get that either. It usually took 3-5 snaps before the thing would fire. I tried every flint I could find and all of the "fixes" I could come up with. A new flint would last about three rounds then it had to be knapped or replaced. I even had the frizzen heat treated. I couldn't give you a group size because I couldn't get three shots in a row.
I've often said that the reason you always see paintings of mountain men with two horses, is that it takes the second horse to carry all the stuff required to keep a flintlock firing.
Needless to say after about 6 months of agony, I traded it to a young warrior that had more patience than I.
He went to a rifle builder and spent more than the original price of the gun to finally get it to shoot. The primary repairs were a touch hole movement and a brand new quality lock.
I still love the front stuffers but I am a proponent of the theory that there was a reason for the invention of the percussion cap.

That said, that is a beautiful shotgun.
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Old December 10, 2010, 01:22 PM   #8
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Another View of the Locks

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Old December 10, 2010, 01:57 PM   #9
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That gun is a thing of beauty and a joy to behold forever! Thanks for sharing!
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Old December 10, 2010, 03:32 PM   #10
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Another View of the Locks
Would you please quit it. I've got to change another shirt from all the drool running down the front.
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Old December 10, 2010, 05:17 PM   #11
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I am not a long arm guy but that is a pretty thing. I started to comment on the beauty of the wood but then everything about that shotgun is nice.
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Old December 10, 2010, 05:54 PM   #12
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Get another shirt Fingers, here are some of the rifles they shoot at our club


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Old December 10, 2010, 06:40 PM   #13
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Here's my take on flintlocks.
I felt, a few years back, that my life would be complete if I could just own a 38 caliber flintlock rifle.
I searched for several months before I found a Pedersoli in 36 that was close enough.
My first impression was that I had never seen a new rifle in such poor condition. Wood was poor and wood to metal fit was terrible. No problem, I wanted a shooter. I didn't get that either. It usually took 3-5 snaps before the thing would fire. I tried every flint I could find and all of the "fixes" I could come up with. A new flint would last about three rounds then it had to be knapped or replaced. I even had the frizzen heat treated. I couldn't give you a group size because I couldn't get three shots in a row.
I've often said that the reason you always see paintings of mountain men with two horses, is that it takes the second horse to carry all the stuff required to keep a flintlock firing.
Needless to say after about 6 months of agony, I traded it to a young warrior that had more patience than I.
He went to a rifle builder and spent more than the original price of the gun to finally get it to shoot. The primary repairs were a touch hole movement and a brand new quality lock.
I still love the front stuffers but I am a proponent of the theory that there was a reason for the invention of the percussion cap.

That said, that is a beautiful shotgun.
It's a real shame that you let one bad experience with a poorly made piece of junk color your attitude about all flintlock rifles. That makes about as much sense as never driving a car because you once owned a Yugo.
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Old December 10, 2010, 10:44 PM   #14
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Yep, I really feel sorry for people like that.
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