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Old December 4, 2010, 04:20 PM   #1
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changing glock 17 into glock 18 (automatic pistol )

hello my friends .. i have a serious question .

how can I change my glock 17 from semi into full automatic pistol as well as glock 18 ??

I want a good explained answer .. thankss

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Old December 4, 2010, 04:27 PM   #2
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You can't, legally, (if USA) so the question doesn't belong here.
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Old December 4, 2010, 04:28 PM   #3
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Ooh, cant wait for the experts to answer this one.

It will also be interesting to know how to do the same with a cz 75 or even the Beretta 92.
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Old December 4, 2010, 04:34 PM   #4
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Asking for a good explained answer on how to convert a standard pistol into a class III firearm.....................well, I don't think, even if someone does know, you are going to get that answer.
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Old December 4, 2010, 04:53 PM   #5
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Old December 4, 2010, 04:57 PM   #6
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There is no indication that he is in the USA and from the name Almre I suspect he is not. But still ain't gonna get an answer. Othr than maybe send it back to Glock.
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Old December 4, 2010, 05:09 PM   #7
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It can be done if you're competent with tools and have the diagram/instructions.

It's not as pretty as a G18, but it works just the same - with a selector switch so it's not always full auto.

The blueprints/drafts can be had out around the Internet. I won't say anything more.

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Old December 4, 2010, 05:14 PM   #8
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What a great topic for your first post
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Old December 4, 2010, 05:59 PM   #9
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Where are you from?

I know some people abroad who put the fire selector..

but I think that isnt easy to shoot because after each shoot the muzzle rise...or you can turn the gun and shoot..

in other countries where is many armed people ilegaly, I mean, Bad guys.. when they listen shoot of an automatic pistol they leavee inmediatly jjajjaa

I think the barrel from a g17 isnt the same as g18.. so at the end you can broke your gun if shoot so much....
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Old December 4, 2010, 07:24 PM   #11
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There are a number of after-market selectors available, but none are available to private US Citizens as none were created until after 1986, so unless you are a Class III FFL with a request from a LE agency to evaluate them, you can't legally convert a 17 into a full-auto.

If you live outside the US, it's easier, and cheaper to just buy the selector (one replaces the slide cover, so it's fast and easy).

They all come with detailed instructions... good luck.
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Old December 4, 2010, 07:31 PM   #12
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well, I don't think, even if someone does know, you are going to get that answer.
+1 to that.

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Old December 4, 2010, 07:37 PM   #13
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Can any Glock be made select fire, or full auto? Yes. Can you convert a Glock 17 into a Glock 18? No. Not "exactly". It would not be legal for the average "Joe" to do such a thing here in the US, however other countries have different laws. -Goodspeed
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Old December 5, 2010, 04:09 AM   #14
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thanks for all your response ( the writer )

thank you very much to see a lot of responses ..
i saw that most of you was talking about the laws and said that is not legal . I know that and i also know that it is international illigal .
but i asked this question just for knowledge no more . its a smart confuse question !! yeh
i searched for a long time in the internet and books but all of it was going in vain . i even asked experts in this field and some of them refused to answer and some of them was explicit and said " dont know its hard complex question " .

SO ultimately i had expected that no one of you can answer this and the justification was it is not legal in USA !!

anyway thanks for attempts ..
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Old December 5, 2010, 04:32 AM   #15
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It is completely legal to convert any weapon to full auto.

You just have to be a licensed manufacturer and be making the gun for R&D/development for military or LE applications. Just a series of legal hoops to jump through.

I have a class III/Trust and own a class III weapon.

BTW machine guns are not illegal, just taxed.
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Old December 5, 2010, 07:02 AM   #16
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the answer is on youtube....pretty clever
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Old December 5, 2010, 08:56 AM   #17
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It's not that hard if you can get or make the parts.
I can't see that this would make the pistol any more usefull. Seems like a waste of time and effort.
There have been a few studies on full auto vs, semi auto weapons. In almost all cases a semi auto is better than full auto.
If you just want to shoot one, see if there is a class three dealer that will rent you one at a full auto range. I believe that there are several companies that do this.
I'm not even going to go into the legal issues.
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Old December 5, 2010, 09:52 AM   #18
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You appear to be in Israel. I have no clue what the laws are in Israel, or elsewhere.

But given that this is a US based website, with US residents as its primary membership, it's illegal here, and we're not going to discuss it even in hypothetical terms. Too much baggage attached.

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