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Old November 29, 2010, 11:51 PM   #1
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What's the BEST bolt-action rifle on the market?

What do you think is the absolute best bolt-action rifle available today? Now, I'm not talking about antique guns or collectable guns that cost well over $10K. I'm talking about rifles under $3K. Here are the criterias:
  • Reliability and Durability
  • Accuracy
  • Resale value (collectability in the future)
  • Something that can handle at least 300 Win Mag

Thanks in advance for the input guys!
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Old November 30, 2010, 12:02 AM   #2
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Remington 700.
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Old November 30, 2010, 12:21 AM   #3
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I have a Remington 700vls in .308 and a Winchester Model 70(Synthetic stock) in .270 Win. They are both dependable and very accurate. I use them interchangeably to hunt pigs...
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Old November 30, 2010, 12:35 AM   #4
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Really the only one that I can think of that fits what you are wanting is an antique rifle the Pre 64 M70 Winchester maybe a few tang safety flat bolt Rugers. Most new production rifles will only maintain about 75-80 percent of their value if you shoot them but keep them NRA grade Excellent. Unless it is a rare chambering, but a .300 Win isn't one of them. You can still pick up a very nice Pre 64 for less than 3K but a Pre-War M70 in excellent condition will cost you more.
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Old November 30, 2010, 12:50 AM   #5
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I'm thinking one of the FN Bolt Guns

edit, I am not sure they make long actions though.

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Old November 30, 2010, 12:55 AM   #6
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Winchester 70

Free floated barrel
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Old November 30, 2010, 01:50 AM   #7
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The best bolt action period is the mauser 1898

The current, availiable to the average joe adaptation of this rifle is the Winchester Model 70 (and Ruger M77 )... So it wins in my book..

What wars has the 700 fought in large quantities??? Answer: None.. It is relegated to being a specialized sniper weapon system.. It does this job very well, but in terms of total numbers on the battlefield they just don't compare to the numbers of mausers fielded in past conflicts..
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Old November 30, 2010, 02:05 AM   #8
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Of the current crop of rifles out there I tend to lean towards a Winchester M 70 Featherweight or a Ruger M 77 RSI, Both have classic looks, classic actions (Mauser) and are available in the classic rounds.
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Old November 30, 2010, 04:22 AM   #9
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What's with all of the delusional comments on 700's and Win 70's?

The guy asked for the best under $3k, I've never known any factory workhorse brand to top what you get with a Sako. In fact in Varmint and Tactical class he can have the set trigger.

I've had six Sakos that all easily did cloverleafs with one or more factory loads, and it won't take the whole $3k unless you add $1000 to $1500 for a scope.

Sauer is another, at the $2k to $3k point you can get into the tactical series rifles by either Sako or Sauer, and they are indisputably awesome 1/2 MOA rifles.

I had a .338 Magnum Sako that the guy I got it from shot three separate all touching groups of three showing me how it could shoot. I couldn't stand the kick so I couldn't do it and got rid of it, but that was box stock with factory loads. I've also had three .243's including a Varmint model, a Varmint .22-250, and a heavy barreled 6mm PPC and all shot 1/2 MOA.

Ya'll have your heads on budget, the guy can go out to a couple of grand.

Oh, and every Sako I've ever bought holds it's full value and then some, they are always worth what you'll pay.
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Old November 30, 2010, 04:41 AM   #10
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Hmm...So far, sounds like it's a toss up between a Winchester M70, Remington 700, and Sako 85. Keep the input coming guys!

Many thanks.
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Old November 30, 2010, 05:05 AM   #11
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Tossup????

No, there's no tossup because some guys are budget oriented, they are leaving two grand on the table, nobody in their right mind ever placed a Remington or current Winchester in the same category as Sako or Sauer except when dealing with budget constraints.

Ask anyone whether they would rather have a Remington tactical or a Sako TRG and I know which they will take if money isn't the prevailing consideration. The TRG .338 Lapua is a 1200 yard sniper rifle.

Whoa, you got me going there buddy, tossup..... I guess if you can't afford a Sako a person needs to delude themselves into thinking they are as good.
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Old November 30, 2010, 06:20 AM   #12
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With a $3000 budget I'd have a gunsmith start with a Winchester action. Probably one of the Classics made between 1994 and 2006 and build a custom to my liking. I'd go with the older version of the Winchester vs the new FN produced version only because I like the older style trigger better.
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Old November 30, 2010, 06:27 AM   #13
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98 Mauser. Tricked out.
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Old November 30, 2010, 06:45 AM   #14
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I posted a similar thread a few weeks ago. Picked up my new Sako 85 Bavarian last friday.
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Old November 30, 2010, 08:41 AM   #15
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Blaser R8, here's a nice package with mounts and scope on Gunbroker (or ask Wildalaska for his price).
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Old November 30, 2010, 08:43 AM   #16
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Remington 700.
That's where I'd go.
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Old November 30, 2010, 09:08 AM   #17
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If you equate accuracy for "best" I might suggest something no one else will. Now for an answer that will appear ignorant & foolish. But only to those that haven't shot one. Before you buy anything I suggest you find some way to shoot the low priced, bottom line Thompson Center Icon Venture rifle. I've fired nothing that will out shoot one. And I'd hate to tally all the rifles I've owned and shot. Seems from internet comments all the calibers really do shoot well. The Venture (in my opinion) will prove a disaster for the Icon top line T/C rifle. For $400 you'll get a rifle that will shoot with the best available at any price. I'm talking full on custom rifles and European imports. The accuracy alone should sell for 2-5 times the price they are selling for. The trigger quality is way into custom trigger territory, I'm talking Timmney - Jewel etc. Whatever T/C is doing to these rifles I hope to heaven they don't stop! I suspect they will though, and eventually raise the price to 3-4 times the price of Rugers/Remingtons/Winchesters/Savage. They really are that accurate. I consider mine to be the best $$$ I've spent in a very long time. Think me foolish but ask around before you buy anything else. The logo on the box really says it all "is this the most accurate production rifle in the world - damn straight!" (quoted from feeble old memory so may not be exact).
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Old November 30, 2010, 09:32 AM   #18
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my custom long range rifle was built on an old ( 1980's vintage ) BRNO long action... when it was getting mated to a custom 6.5 X 284 barrel, my local builder said that it was one of the best machined actions he had ever worked on...

of "newer" guns ( I'm not really into that $3,000.00 price tag on guns ) but my Browning Stainless Stalkers are about the best "newer" out of box guns I own... next in "my" price range would be a couple of my CZ's
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Old November 30, 2010, 12:01 PM   #19
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Low budget (<$500)- Howa 1500 or TC Venture
Mid range ($500-$1,500)- TC Icon, Remington 700 , Winchester M70
Semi-custom ($1,500-$2,000)- Nosler 48 TRG, Cooper
Lower-end custom ($2,000-$3,000)- Gunsmith-built rifle, custom shop rifle, etc
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Old November 30, 2010, 01:02 PM   #20
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Winchester Model 70 Super Grade

The Rifleman's Rifle.

Why? My completely subjective opinion. I have one and love it and someday my son will have it.
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Old November 30, 2010, 01:15 PM   #21
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i,m a remington rifle man,but i have to admit i have a soft spot for this old 1951 model 70 winchester. eastbank.

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Old November 30, 2010, 02:26 PM   #22
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lol haha @ woodguru. Sounds like you might be working for Sako's PR team. So why are Sako's so great? Are there any hard evidence showing that Sako's are better than a Winchester or Remington? I'm not just going to believe a rifle is superior based on high price alone.

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Old November 30, 2010, 02:35 PM   #23
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Old November 30, 2010, 02:35 PM   #24
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Sako's (in the 1960's to 1980's) were the most accurate, beautiful, silky smooth bolt rifles ever made. You can't find them (in good shape) for sale and if you do they're $1500 on up.

I like the new 85 but the A7 I was looking at is cheaply made and doesn't deserve the Sako name on it. Might be accurate though.
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Old November 30, 2010, 02:50 PM   #25
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If you have $3k why not build up a custom rig?

Bell and carlson Medalist Varminter stock
Lilja Barrel
Howa 1500/Rem 700/pick your brand action with bolt (can get a barreled action to cut cost if you REALLY wanted to)
Glass bedding
To make it look nice, get a new bolt knob, maybe a bolt with milling

Could come close to $3k, probably under $2k if you cut out the fancy milling and bolt knob.

My choice would be a Howa 1500 for bone stock kit. I like the three position safety that locks the action closed, but it's a hunting rifle, not a bench gun.
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