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Old November 18, 2010, 03:36 PM   #51
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Geez doc can't you back up? Or is there a reason you let the old man stay so close?
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Old November 18, 2010, 03:55 PM   #52
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This brings back memories of Grandpa and his cane..... He was in WW2, one day in the phillipines he was captured by Jap forces and made to walk to bataan. He suffered from that the rest of his life, had to use a cane to walk and keep his balance. Was slower than a snail but so fast with the cane. All it took was for you to forget the reach, then smack, the cane. It hurt.

One day I was fightin with my brother, I grabbed that cane and whacked him across the knees, he went down hard. I thought I broke his legs and was feared about telling mom or dad. Respect the cane, but keep out of its reach and you will be OK, old men cant run fast for the most part.

Sure do miss Grandpa, dont miss that cane tho.
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Old November 18, 2010, 03:59 PM   #53
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"Geez doc can't you back up? Or is there a reason you let the old man stay so close?"

Since we're talking theory here, what if I was in a position where I couldn't back up?

What if I'd just sat down into my car seat and he blocked the door before I could close it?

My point, in case you missed it, was it's not always "this or that", "black or white".

Of course, an old man with a cane seems as if he couldn't pose a significant threat.

But that might not always be true.
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Old November 18, 2010, 04:07 PM   #54
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Just an FYI, I have been told that "Sensei" in Japanese, actually means "old man". Now, where can I get a book on 'cane' self defense techniques? Thanks!
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Old November 18, 2010, 04:50 PM   #55
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Now, where can I get a book on 'cane' self defense techniques?

Google: LAPD + baton techniques

You will get more book and training info than you can ever read.

Walking stick was the only weapon Mr. Chan (my old Tae Kwan Do teacher) would give us instruction in,,,
We had all just seen Enter the Dragon and we wanted to learn nunchako,,,
He said, why train in something you can't carry around town,,,
He was right, the walking stick is formidable.

If it wasn't such a pita to carry the danged thing around all the time,,,
I would feel relatively well armed with my ash wood cane.

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Old November 18, 2010, 04:50 PM   #56
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Old November 18, 2010, 06:41 PM   #57
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+1 donron if it's an elderly man with a cane or move in quick and check his pulse and let him know he needs to calm down before he has a heart attack (humor) . But yes I'd probably just leave and let him stew. Now, if a saw a blade pop out of the end of the cane that might change things.
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Old November 18, 2010, 07:15 PM   #58
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The point of my post was not to "pump hot lead" into an old person with a cane.Those are your word not mine.
I bothers me that you think this confrontation may have ended differently had you been carrying. Maybe you shouldn't carry.

You can't pull a gun out to deffuse a situation it may very well escalate the heck out of a situation and lead to your being required to "pump hot lead into someone". Guns aren't for flashing at someone to anoint youself as the winner of an argument. Guns are for shooting someone.

I would hope that anyone would accept the small chance of getting his butt whipped by an old man, rather that pulling a gun out.
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Old November 18, 2010, 09:46 PM   #59
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Get away. No shame in moving away from any kind of potential attack. If the attacker comes after you then choices have to be made.

One can get irrational in a hurry when confronted with potential violence. if the other person is irrational, it can go to blows, and one never ever knows the outcome. Our culture is so cranked up on phony violence portrayed in movies that many have no clue how bad the other person can be, or how bad you can get nailed.

A gun, in my opinion is the last resort when you feel your life is threatend.
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Old November 19, 2010, 10:13 AM   #60
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Not my forum, but I think this has run its course. Yes, a cane is dangerous. Yes, it is an old man from whom, you could probably just run for it.

No, jumping in your car to retrieve your gat and/or roscoe probably isn't a good plan.

So to all a good night or morning.

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