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Old November 14, 2010, 11:21 PM   #1
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Cooked the 1911 too long?

Ok, so I've read several different posts about the method of detail stripping your 1911 (parkerized), coating it with vaseline, and then slowly "cooking" in in the oven. Well, I tried it today, and it smelled very bad. It came out with an orangish film on top of the parkerizing. I did it for 4 hours at 350F. I am now trying to scrape the film off with my fingernails...Perhaps the Vaseline had some sort of additive that burnt?

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Old November 14, 2010, 11:25 PM   #2
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But frankly I just realized it is too useless to try and rub/scrape all of it off. This got me to thinking, as the film seems to come off with a finger (where reachable), what do you think the harm would be in boiling the frame and slide? I know that parkerizing will soak up water, but if I got the gun hot in water, and the let it boil for a while, then removed it and immediately soaked it down in oil, I don't see the harm in it. However, I also didn't see the harm in coating a gun in Vaseline and cooking it.:barf:
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Old November 14, 2010, 11:28 PM   #3
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I have never heard of this Why are we cooking 1911's
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Old November 14, 2010, 11:31 PM   #4
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Old November 14, 2010, 11:38 PM   #5
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4hrs @ 350 was probably too hot and too long.
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Old November 14, 2010, 11:47 PM   #6
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Soak the gun in mineral spirits or with WD 40. Scrub with a toothbrush, and spray it off with brake parts cleaner. Oil immediately.
Keep the Vaseline off the guns, and keep the guns out of the oven.
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Old November 15, 2010, 12:02 AM   #7
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Thats my quote of the week.
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Old November 15, 2010, 12:24 AM   #8
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I'm guessing that it was cooked too hot, too fast, which burned the surface of the petroleum jelly rendering it to a film.

Had the film set-up like this while it was hot, or is this the result of it cooling down? Because I'm wondering if warming it up again will liquefy the film.
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Old November 15, 2010, 01:08 AM   #9
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Thats my quote of the week.
any-who im gonna agree with the wd-40/brake cleaner/oil method
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Old November 15, 2010, 01:11 AM   #10
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really now?
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Old November 15, 2010, 01:32 AM   #11
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Mineral spirits/WD40 will break the cooked Vaseline down. Scrubbing helps. The brake parts cleaner will remove all traces-even in hard to scrub spots.
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Old November 15, 2010, 02:39 AM   #12
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Anyone try cooking a Glock?
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Old November 15, 2010, 03:03 AM   #13
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Looks like the springs were out, but can't tell for sure. If they were in, they will have to be replaced.
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Old November 15, 2010, 07:33 AM   #14
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Is 2 hours at 700 more just as effective at 4 hours at 350?

Makes you think.
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Old November 15, 2010, 08:03 AM   #15
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I am guessing that you did this because the author of the blog is a metallurgist and has extensive training as a chemical engineer? Obviously, tongue in cheek, but the point is that his blog wasn't based on science or fact, apparently. Why did all those GIs just clean and oil their .45s over the decades and that was sufficient?

Back to your original post, I would try soaking in a bath of brake cleaner. If that doesn't work, I might step up to soaking in lacquer thinner for a bit. Oh, and leave the vaseline for your wife/girl friends makeup removal.
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Old November 15, 2010, 08:03 AM   #16
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It came out with an orangish film on top of the parkerizing.
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Old November 15, 2010, 08:04 AM   #17
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Springs were out. It is a Springfield, but the serial number starts with NM so I believe it's a US gun Yeah my first thought when I saw it was "Well I've really did it this time. Went and turned a perfectly functioning gun into this". Will try the method using WD-40. Probably spray it down and then let it soak for a while in a plastic ziploc bag for a while then scrubbing it down

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Old November 15, 2010, 10:31 AM   #19
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it is a Springfield, but the serial number starts with NM so I believe it's a US gun
All Springfield frames are from Imbel in Brazil. The NM serial prefix denotes guns that had final assembly and finishing done in the States, but they all start in the same place.
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Slow cooking in a crock pot is much more effective!
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Old November 15, 2010, 10:50 AM   #21
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Oh! I did not know that...but I just picked up some brake cleaner, and will be first trying WD-40 and then brake cleaner. I hope all goes well....it's just one of those things I'll be able to look back and go "what the hell was I thinking!".

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Old November 15, 2010, 11:00 AM   #22
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While Vaseline (petroleum jelly) is a petroleum product, it is NOT grease.
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Old November 15, 2010, 11:07 AM   #23
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Slow cooking in a crock pot is much more effective!
Some one is going to take you seriously and we'll have a post about that too.

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IDK what were you thinking?

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Keep the Vaseline off the guns, and keep the guns out of the oven.
Sad... *facepalm*

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I am guessing that you did this because the author of the blog is a metallurgist and has extensive training as a chemical engineer?
Everyone is a metallurgist and chemical engineer on the interwebs.
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Old November 15, 2010, 11:13 AM   #24
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While Vaseline (petroleum jelly) is a petroleum product, it is NOT grease.
Oh I gotcha! So I need to redo the experiment using actual grease I've got it soaking now in the brake cleaner, after a quick spray and scrub, it appears this is going to work moderately well. Thanks everyone. Perhaps I'll post an after cleanup pic
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Old November 15, 2010, 11:14 AM   #25
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In defense of the OP, I have read this shake and bake thing several times in the 1911 forums. There are even detailed instructions on how to do it.

I'm sure he was trying to make an improvement based on the gurus that proclaim that this baking is a good thing. I don't dispute it beacause I don't know from personal experience.

Me, I wouldn't do it. I think the Springer parked finish is cool just the way it is. A little holster wear adds character to a 1911 anyways.
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