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Old December 17, 2010, 11:51 AM   #126
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Sure,Roach. Try it, see how things go,just to know. You want to know what your gun is capable of in your hands and that's a good thing....
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Old December 18, 2010, 08:59 PM   #127
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Clayman; I am anyathing but an expert on weapons, combat, or law enforcement, but I learned a little something in the Marines and while there are plenty of exeptions to any rule, I can't that "The best defence is an offence."

Also, you missed the part about a "good" offense being the best defense. Moreover, mu understanding is it is a lot more difficult to attack a position than to defend one.

My feeling is simple, and this should not be confused with an officer or soldiers task of clearing a building.

While the better military plans rely on intelligence, I wouldn't expect to have much if any on an uninvited guest. Is he alone, armed, on drugs and if so are they a type that will make him difficult to stop short of overwhelming force. Is his intent to rob or assault my family? For that matter, is it someone that knows the layout of my home and how to best assault it. For that matter it could be my son's Marine Corp buddie back from Afganistan with a buzz on who has simply wandered into my home in the middle of the night with no evil intent.

That is why my plan is to take up a defensive position from which to await LOE, in the case of an intruder.
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Old December 18, 2010, 10:56 PM   #128
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+1 TheKlawMan

That is why my plan is to take up a defensive position from which to await LOE, in the case of an intruder.
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Old December 19, 2010, 09:01 PM   #129
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Mossberg 500 "Watchdog" w/ TacStar pistol grip and 00 Buck...
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Old December 20, 2010, 12:38 AM   #130
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870 12 gauge Express with a 20 inch Improved Cylinder Deer Sighted barrel.

Blackhawk shotgun sling that doubles as a bandolieer, 5 rounds of Winchester Military-grade 00 buck, five rounds of federal 00 buck, and 5 rounds of Winchester PDX-1, Cabela's Shotgun sleeve with five Federal three inch slugs.

Loaded with 4 Remington three-inch 00 buck in the tube. Chamber's clear and locked closed with the safety on, so a potential thief has to know how to work an 870 to cycle the action.
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Old December 20, 2010, 01:42 AM   #131
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Benelli M1 Super 90 12ga 00Buck

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Old December 20, 2010, 09:08 AM   #132
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870 tactical magnum 7+1, 20" cyl, 12ga w/side saddle, low recoil slugs and #4 buck.
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Old December 21, 2010, 01:42 AM   #133
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Old December 21, 2010, 02:11 AM   #134
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M590A1, 20"er. Didn't like the synthetic furniture (which the gun beat me up with) & snagged one of Havlin's last sets of the old style 500 wood sets. Promptly cut 1.5" off the stock & put on a Limbsaver & it couldn't fit or shoot better.



Stays stoked with Federal 00 "LE" with the Flite-control wads.
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Old December 21, 2010, 09:39 AM   #135
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I normally don't like wood furniture unless its on newer shotguns, but WOW.

Crazy Carl, that is one pretty gun. Never seen, and probably never will see another wood stocked M590.
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Old December 21, 2010, 05:36 PM   #136
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Nothing fancy for me, just a Mossberg 500 with 00 buckshot.
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Old December 21, 2010, 10:16 PM   #137
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Personally, I'd much rather have a 12 gauge/00. If I was convinced, as you are that I needed a handgun for primary defense I'd choose .45 ACP, but if I was constrained to using a Judge it would be loaded with .45 Colt.
I own a Judge Ultra-Lite. I agree that the 45LC rounds are the prefered ammo for this gun in SD situations. I use Hornady 225 grain FTX jhp ammo. I also will alternate some Federal 000 buckshot when I think I'm going to carry it in the car since the buckshot is powerful enough to stop a car jacking & not travel past the threat as far as the 45lc would. 45LC alternated with 000 buckshot is an effective SD setup. (Birdshot would not be effective in my opinion unless it was a shot to the face from point blank range.) Yes I would rather have my 12 gauge or my Glock 21, but the Taurus Judge isn't the toy that some seem to think it is with the right ammo.
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Old December 26, 2010, 05:45 PM   #138
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Old December 26, 2010, 06:08 PM   #139
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I've got two:

-- Mossberg 500 12 ga w/20-inch barrel, w/compensated muzzle brake
-- Maverick 88 12 ga w/18.5-inch barrel, stock

Both are 5+1.

That said, I don't usually keep them "at the ready", but in the gun safe. My nightstand HD gun is whatever I carried that day, usually a CZ 75D PCR 9mm (14+1) or a CZ75BD 9mm (16+1).
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Old December 26, 2010, 06:44 PM   #140
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Well I have a Remington 870 Express, and I bought a cheap barrel and cut it down to 18.5" and put a Hi-Viz sight on it. During August thru march though I keep the 28" barrel on it because that's the barrel I hunt with. I keep #4 buck in it regardless of what barrel is on there though.
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Old December 26, 2010, 08:18 PM   #141
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Old December 26, 2010, 10:03 PM   #142
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Hi Klaw...

Check this out. They would both be dead, if he took a defensive position. Things can be situational, but you have to be ready to ACT, not REACT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-3qKkEFOlg
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Old December 27, 2010, 08:36 AM   #143
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I did this "project gun." Mossberg 500 w/handguard-covered 18" Open Cylinder barrel, folding stock/pistol grip, wraparound forearm, shell holder, red light... I much prefer a much simpler setup but this fit a particular niche with a light load of #4 buckshot and is what I have loaded at home (with a snap-cap in the chamber).
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Old December 29, 2010, 09:25 PM   #144
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believe it or not these cats are the most viscous little monsters i have ever seen. They could probably strip a steer right down to the bone in under a min or at-least trip up anyone walking in.




I do not have any pictures of mine but i do have this one i bought my mother. Let's just say no one comes in late when the family gets together for the holidays.

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Old December 29, 2010, 11:11 PM   #145
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Clayman, I looked at that video and wonder what a professional LEO would think, becasue to me it appears that the guy was very lucky that he got away with charging the gunman. I suspect the odds were much better had they let the gun man take the money and leave.
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Old December 30, 2010, 07:46 PM   #146
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Hi Klawman,

All I'm saying is that each case is different
If he hadn't rushed him, they would both be dead. The bad guy wasn't there for the money.

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Old December 30, 2010, 08:34 PM   #147
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Clayman, I was wondering about the fact that he didn't wear a mask. Still, the fadt that this time they would have been dead and it turned out that the guy made the right choice in rushing the gunman means what? What were the odds the guy would have left versus snuffing them? Was this one drunk? I wondered that the victim was able to cover that much ground and jump the gunman.

{I should add that I agree with what you said about each case being different. Here, the customer made the right call as it turns out the gun man was a shooter and the customer was able to rush the gun man. I hope the customer doesn't get charged for shooting the bad guy after gaining control of the situation, if that is what happened.}

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Old January 1, 2011, 12:28 AM   #148
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Hey KlawMan,

Happy New Year! The customer was not charged with any crime. Both Illinois and Indiana law enforcement credited him with corrective action. LA Tan gave him $5,000 dollars and lifetime tanning for both him and his wife...I kid you not!

The only thing missing was replacement bullets, but then the gun did not belong to him. Just kidding on that last comment.

PS: The perp commented to the customer' "I don't care, I don't want your money, you know what time it is!"(as in. TIME TO DIE!!)
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Old January 3, 2011, 01:12 AM   #149
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Old January 3, 2011, 01:23 AM   #150
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Chinese copy of Ithaca 37 with ghost ring rear sight. Heavier than original Ithaca, more reliable with double slide bars. Keep it loaded with Nobel Sport LE 00 Buck (12 pellets).
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