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Old September 9, 2010, 12:52 AM   #1
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Little Mosin Project

I love my mosin--it's just a load of fun to shoot. But, like so many others have noted, that damn bolt sticking straight out annoyed me, and I hated it snapping straight up when open... So I'd contemplated a little over the past year or so about changing to the bent bolt. Options are there---buy a bolt-on conversion (never really liked that idea), or send the bolt off to someone who chops it and welds a piece of round stock in place with a ball on the end (and that's exactly what it looks like--the visual attractiveness of a polished piece of round stock with a ball at the end). What I'd really been looking for was something that looked like it belonged on a 70 year-old 91/30--slightly rugged, a little character, and functional without excess. When you can't find what you want elsewhere, do it yourself....




First was a piece of carbon steel rod that I took to the forge and anvil. I drew it out a little and flared the end into a slight bell (so much more appealing than a ball in my opinion).

Next was the bend and cut-off, followed by a rough grind on the flare. I took out most of the draw marks but added a rim and a couple chisel marks for character and thumb grip, then touched up and evened out the top end before annealing. Threaded it, then went to work on the bolt. The only moment of pause was right before cutting off the straight bolt. Once done I dressed it up and marked it to drill and tap for the new bolt. Drilled, tapped, and tightened into place, the bent-bolt project took just over an hour. The only part left to be done is to polish it out to match the finish of the rest of the bolt---but that's the easy part. The best part is I got what I wanted. (And had to share the results )
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Old September 9, 2010, 08:49 AM   #2
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Nice work, looks good!!!
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Old September 9, 2010, 07:03 PM   #3
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looks nice, but I don't think I have ever heard "moisin" and "load of fun to shoot" in the same sentence. Now "moisin" and "kicks like an army mule" I hear all the time.
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Old September 10, 2010, 12:50 AM   #4
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looks nice, but I don't think I have ever heard "moisin" and "load of fun to shoot" in the same sentence. Now "moisin" and "kicks like an army mule" I hear all the time.
Ya, well.... When it's raining, I'm utterly bored and have nothing better to do, I occasionally cram a fork up my left nostril and give it a little twist---just for fun...

I reload for mine. Trust me--after ripping off with a 5-shot group of 180gr. or 200gr. hunting loads, those little mil-surp FMJ's seem pretty comforting and mild--once your shoulder blades are no longer folded over on each other and the tingling running from your right cheek down to your right hand eases up enough to operate the bolt without having a Rainman moment.

I also plink with a 180gr. hard-cast GC lead bullet that's really pleasant to play with. Mosins and chiropractors don't necessarily have to be synonymous...
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Old September 11, 2010, 01:49 PM   #5
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I don't think they kick like a mule. I shoot the hell out of mine without issue.
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Old September 12, 2010, 11:01 AM   #6
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I hunt with a guy that has hunted with Mosins for 45 years.
Every year he shoots a doe with his old 91/30.

He shoots his buck and his elk [when he gets one] with a 300WM.
He shoots his antelope with a 270.
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Old November 21, 2010, 10:46 AM   #7
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They do kick a bit but still a blast to shoot. I have several and am especially fond of my Finnish M39, the most accurate out of the bunch. I'd like to scope one of them, but have been afraid to try the bolt modification myself. Not much of a 'smith' per say, just an automotive tech. Now that I look at the bolt, I would agree that it would probably be too short for my taste if I just bent the existing one.
Nice work on the bolt rangefinder. You definately have a unique Mosin for sure. I am kind of fond of the ball end on the bolt handle though(to each their own). If I cut off my bolt handle and the ball from the handle, drilled and tapped the ball, and the bolt, and then using a peice of pin stock, bent at a 90 and longer of course (what material should I use? Stainless?) , threaded on both ends, and then thread the whole mess together, would that be a feesable mod? Any suggestions are welcome.
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Old November 21, 2010, 11:27 AM   #8
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Mr. G. -

Greetings, from a fellow automotive/cycle bolt turner.

I did what you wanted to do with your Mosin... here's my build thread.
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=417446

Maybe helps a bit? Very affordable - just like scoping a .22.

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Old November 21, 2010, 11:52 AM   #9
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Great info mule, and nice sporter. I'm glad there are a few more people out there like me not afraid to 'go against the norm'. I caught a ton of flak from my buddies for my 'bubba'd up' Sk's and Ak's so I figured why not add some more fuel to the fire. Question about the re crown process. Ive seen the same phillips screw method you refer too but have no idea what that jeweler stuff is. In the middle of nowhere im sure its hard to come by. Would valve grinding compound work? I started with an M44 so no need to cut down the barrel but the crown took a bit of a beeting in my sight and bayonet lug extraction process. Im used to working with axles and hubs and spindles that aparantly can take a lot more 'pressin' without damage to the metal, oops, live n learn.

I'm also going a bit diff. route with the scope ovbiously with my interest in modifying the bolt. Im not fond of the scout scope really so the bolt handle mod is a must in this case. Anyhow, thanks again for the info, great project. Glad it turned out to be a good shooter and lots of fun. Cant wait to see pictures of the next project. When mine is complete, ill post all the before, during, and after pics I've taken. We'll see how many of the pureists i can apall. Keep up the good work.
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Old November 21, 2010, 11:00 PM   #10
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Valve lapping compound would work fine, I imagine. Harbor Freight sells jeweler's rouge - hell, any hardware store should have it.

Mother's Mag and Aluminum Polish would prolly even do it, just lots slower.

EDIT: I just reread your post - the cruddy Commie steel seems to be softer than regular American gunmetal. It's easy to work with. This stuff is way, way softer than metal we deal with on bearing races, axles, etc.

There is a guy online who sells pre-bent Mosin bolts...
http://www.mosinnagant.net/Boltman/Boltman.html

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Old November 23, 2010, 10:50 AM   #11
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If I cut off my bolt handle and the ball from the handle, drilled and tapped the ball, and the bolt, and then using a peice of pin stock, bent at a 90 and longer of course (what material should I use? Stainless?) , threaded on both ends, and then thread the whole mess together, would that be a feesable mod? Any suggestions are welcome.
That all sounds just fine--except I probably wouldn't use stainless---only because it will polish out to a different hue, nothing structural or anything. Also, I found that doing the drill, tap, and thread-in bolt handle works great until you start cranking the bolt all afternoon. Then it starts to loosen up. Option a) drill down perpendicular and tap for a set-screw. OR B) use a little of this stuff ---http://www.marinetex.com/marinetexrapidset.htmlCall it loc-tite from hell. I used it because I had it handy, and because I've used it to fix a hole in my campstove coffee pot. It's tougher than hell, can withstand high temps from direct flame (so bolt heating up won't hurt it, and once it's on, it doesn't come off--period. More than 100 rds. after locking the bolt handle with this and it still felt like it was welded in place.
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Old November 23, 2010, 04:27 PM   #12
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So if not stainless then what material and where do I get it?

Rangefinder - Ive used that marine stuff and your right, it works great. I'll keep that in mind. I like the idea of a set screw better or maybe a roll pin.

Know of anywhere to get better iron sights for the M44? I really like the style that came on my Finn. 39 but the originals on the 44 are much diff. and much less desirable. To top it off, the housing for the rear sight is cracked. It can be repaired but I never enjoyed fixing something I didn't like to begin with.

Thanks for the help.
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Old November 24, 2010, 01:43 AM   #13
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I am trying to help a guy.
I took off the Tupperware stock and threw it away. I got a Boyd's Walnut stock.
I left the crummy Huber trigger on it.
I drilled and tapped this one and pillar bedded it.
My brother TIG welded the bolt handle extension.
It still shoots lousy with a rotten bore.

I sent the guy a range report, where I shot my stellar 91/30, M44, and M39 along side it with the same ammo.
The guy told me to throw it away and stopped responding to email.
Now I am going to have to re barrel it.
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