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Old October 19, 2010, 07:54 AM   #1
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Left Eye Dominant And Right-Handed

I have this problem. I am having problems with bullseye accuracy firing the old way of one-handed with my 22 pistol for bbulseye tgt shooting. This has become a very pronounced problem recently when starting to fire again after a 20 yrs of children and bass fishing and no shooting but for quail and deer.

I discovered this when going shooting with my cousin on a vacation to WA state 2 yrs ago. This guy is heavy into shooting as I used to be. My shots were constantly on the far left side of the tgt at 20 yds. Starting my 24 yr tour in the military (1960 - 1984) as an 18 yr old the Marine Drill Sgt gave me my M1 and being right-handed I shot and did very well but avg with the 45. Must of been the left eye dom. thing as I look back on it.

I have to constantly remind myself when shooting but fairly easy to do with the weaver stance. My groups are tight and on tgt. Problem is the psn for bullseye tgt and am seeking some suggestions to accomodate this eye problem. The farther out I shoot (50 yds so far) I don't have enough windage to compensate for this problem. I am wanting to start bullseye and smallbore Silhouette shooting. I really do need and am seeking some suggestions to accomodate this eye problem.

Thank you in advance for you suggestions.
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Old October 19, 2010, 08:40 AM   #2
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OleEd,

I too have the same issue with being right handed / left eye dominant. I use three different methods to overcome the problem.

1.) Turn your head slightly to the right to align your left eye with the sights.

OR

2.) Hold the pistol on a slight angle (about 20-30 degrees ) to the left so your left eye is lined up with the sights.

OR

3.) Learn to shoot left handed (not as difficult as you may think). I do spend a fair amount of time on the computer at work so one thing that I did to help in making the transition was to switch the "mouse" over to the left side and change the mouse controls to left hand operation in the "control panel" mouse file. I felt like I was a bit retarded for the first hour or so but soon became quite adept at left hand operation.

Good luck
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Old October 19, 2010, 12:34 PM   #3
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Modifed Weaver Stance= Cure

I have the same problem, and agree with the above post. If you keep both eyes open as many instructors advocate you end up seeing double which is very confusing. This is one reason I'm not big on instructors.
What works for me is to tuck chin into the Rt. joint of the shoulder/bicep which forces the Rt. eye to close. It's solid, and is similiar to shooting a rifle.
Many will condem this, but it works for me. Best, Lyle
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Old October 19, 2010, 05:43 PM   #4
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Another cross-dominant here!

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What works for me is to tuck chin into the Rt. joint of the shoulder/bicep which forces the Rt. eye to close. It's solid, and is similiar to shooting a rifle.
I call it the "cheekweld Weaver" and yes, it works great. But it doesn't facilitate movement in a fight so you also have to know and use the more aggressive forward-tilting Weaver variants too.

For a long time I too couldn't do both-eyes-shooting. The Goshen Hexsite completely cures the problem because you're target-focused instead of front-sight-focused. You still get a ghost image of the sight off to the side but it's easy to ignore as it's obviously "wrong". I suspect a red dot would work too, but Hexsites don't have (or need) that distracting dot, nor do they have or need batteries, wires, glass or very much bulk...they're completely practical in standard holsters on typical defense-sized guns:

http://www.goshen-hexsite.com/index2.htm
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Old October 19, 2010, 05:54 PM   #5
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My eye doctor said I am left eye dominant, and I agree. But, I've always shot right handed. I shot expert in the military with M16A1 and with 45 ACP. I've always been a good shot. I suggest you put a patch on your left shooting glasses lense and see if that helps.
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Old October 19, 2010, 06:48 PM   #6
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I have seen shooters put a smear of Chapstick on their glasses lens to prevent using the cross dominant eye.
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Old October 19, 2010, 09:23 PM   #7
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I'm right handed but left eye dominant. I've always shot long guns left handed. Some years back I started shooting handguns lefty also.
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Old October 19, 2010, 09:38 PM   #8
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Sir, I am right-handed and left-eye dominant as well. This caused issues for me in the Army. They tried to teach me lefty shooting, but I am not Anything lefty and fought that scenario.

What works for me is I learned to squint my left eye shut. This solves the problem for me whether I am shooting a shotgun, rifle, or handgun. I had to learn how to do this, as squinting my right eye has always been easy while I was always unable to duplicate with my left eye. Before I learned to squint my left eye shut, I would dip my hat as one example to 'trick' my eyes into seeing correctly.
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Old October 19, 2010, 09:48 PM   #9
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bill's advice is good also. a patch will do the job too, and that's what I did at the very beginning of my army days. I then learned that the eye doesn't need to be completely covered; the rim of a hat over your prorifeal vision on the left eye will do the trick. Once I learned to squint left eye due to habit it all became a mute point.
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Old October 20, 2010, 09:37 AM   #10
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im going thru this for the last several months. my eye dominance has changed from right to left.

i have altered my stance, and a small tilt of the gun helps some too.
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Old October 20, 2010, 10:19 AM   #11
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I'm not sure why this is a problem. I'm this way as well and never noticed a problem, even one-handed, with handguns. With a rifle I just use my right eye.
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Old October 20, 2010, 10:46 AM   #12
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When I'm firing a handgun, my right eye automatically closes as I aim. I suspect I have adopted this over the years as the fix for my cross-dominance, though many other valid suggestions have been said here. Naturally, you need to find out what works best for you. I have yet to try the translucent stickers on the shooting glasses, which help greatly with depth perception.
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Old October 21, 2010, 01:04 PM   #13
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I/m right handed and can't close my left eye. I can't see how this makes ANY difference at all shooting a "pistol". A long gun or bow is another story.

The first time I took my wife shooting she was on the paper every shot. The last two GUYS I'd taken missed the paper a LOT.

I asked her, "which eye are you closing when you shoot?" She said "Both."
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Old October 21, 2010, 01:41 PM   #14
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I/m right handed and can't close my left eye. I can't see how this makes ANY difference at all shooting a "pistol". A long gun or bow is another story.
SPINDRIFT,

The left eye closing thing is a lot of times harder for the right-hander who is left-eye dominant. I am sure this varies between persons, but I had the same issue. Eventually, I was able to squint the left-eye shut from practice. It is still more awkward with my left eye to do it. It doesn't make as much of a difference with a pistol. In fact, I never really even worried about it until when we would shoot at work I would try the left-eye deal like I do when I qualify on the m16 just for the heck of it. I would think that it Would help the OP if he is target shooting. Just a couple of weeks ago I was aiming my gp100 ruger revolver and I left both eyes open and then squinted my left eye shut. The trajectory and/or the vision changes. It is more accurate for me to squint my left-eye shut. With an m16 or henry rifle it makes all the difference because I am left-eye dominant; with the handgun its not as big of a deal though it does make a difference. Being righty and left eye dominant is probably a reason why I am not a better shooter too. I get the job done, but not as perfect as I would if I didn't have to worry about the eye stuff(my right eye isn't open all the way when I shut my left eye because it isn't natural for me //on the flip side like my wife: many lefties can't close their right eye easily like I can since I am righty). Sometimes I need to break between shots because of the uncomfortableness, sweat, whatever(not with a handgun, but my sight can go blurry quicker when squinting my left eye for a rifle // rifle shooters can probably atest to the fact that if you are positioned correctly it helps many people to stay in the exact position between shots; I don't have that luxury every time).
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Old October 21, 2010, 01:50 PM   #15
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This is a very common problem and I suffer from the same problem, pistols I bring up to my left eye, i dont tilt my head, the gun should work for me, not the other way around. For long guns I have no choise to use my non dominant eye.
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Old October 21, 2010, 01:51 PM   #16
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one other thing which is probably obvious to most shooters(or at least people with opposite eye dominances than their shooting hands):

I can't even aim a rifle close to correctly due to vision problems without doing the hat trick on my left eye(see my other post- very good trick if you wear a hat or kevlar), squinting my left eye shut, or using an eye patch which I did in my shooting infancy days.
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Old October 21, 2010, 03:16 PM   #17
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Move the back leg to bring the sights over and shoot with both eyes open. No squinting, tape, Chapstick or anything else is required. Certainly no tucking your head into your arm.
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Old October 21, 2010, 05:13 PM   #18
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I also have the same problem, which effected me early on

Try this

HALF squint your left eye and shoot with your right eye and right handed

This will force your right eye to take the dominant position and also
give you a bit of needed depth perception for your sight picture
(Lacking from the FULL squint)

I couldnt shoot skeet at all
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Old October 21, 2010, 05:18 PM   #19
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Im right eye dominant and left handed, so I began shooting pistols right handed and found there are some advantages to doing so. The trigger finger on my right hand is much more sensitive, particularly with revolvers and has done me well.
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Old October 21, 2010, 07:04 PM   #20
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I/m right handed and can't close my left eye. I can't see how this makes ANY difference at all shooting a "pistol". A long gun or bow is another story.
well for me i have almost 25 years shooting a handgun right handed/right eyed.
now that i am suddenly "left eyed" i am struggling to shoot accurately again.
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Old October 21, 2010, 10:20 PM   #21
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My epiphany came after many years of shooting when I decided to shoot tournament archery and had to use a scope on the bow. All of a sudden my world changed. I'd never realized that I was shooting anything any differently than anyone else. Suddenly I was faced with the reality of having to buy a left handed bow and build up all that muscle in my left arm. Fortunately, target bows are much lighter poundage than the 72 pound hunting bow I'd started out with.

I have no problem shooting bolt action and pumps, but I'm about to purchase an AR. After many weeks of constant research I decided to go with the Stag left handed model 5 in the 6.8 SPC. I don't think I want THAT much brass flying across my face to the right side.
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Old October 21, 2010, 10:39 PM   #22
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Im right handed and left eye dominant as well. I close my right eye, move my head over a bit, other than that its business as usual.
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Old October 23, 2010, 09:44 PM   #23
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Try this

HALF squint your left eye and shoot with your right eye and right handed

This will force your right eye to take the dominant position and also
give you a bit of needed depth perception for your sight picture
(Lacking from the FULL squint)

I couldnt shoot skeet at all
You're absolutely right, dean, this works well. But for some of us it doesn't come "automatically," that is you have to work at it. I've tried it, it works, but it doesn't come quickly. My right eye will close if a pistol is snatched up quickly. It would probably take many years of range time for this to be second nature for things like competition or, Heaven forbid, real trouble.

Do you still have to work at it, or does it come automatically for you?
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Old October 30, 2010, 09:46 PM   #24
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My response to this same question can be found here.
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Old November 9, 2010, 10:19 AM   #25
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A lot of conventional pistol shooters have found training themselves to shoot left-handed is a good exercise just because you don't have flinches or other bad habits drilled into the weak side. I am not cross-dominant, but I find my left finger is easier to isolate from other minor muscle and tendon movements in the palm, so this is another advantage.

One tool that should be mentioned in more detail is the pistol shooter's hat. This is a baseball style hat with a very long bill and flaps that dangle from either side of the bill. The flaps have Velcro strategically placed so you can position the flaps to form a tunnel for an eye to look through if you choose to.

The best batters in baseball are often cross-dominant. Dominant hand behind the bat, dominant eye on the pitcher. There seem to be enough of you on this board to get at least a softball league started.
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