the right choke for home defense

rsh32crew · September 30, 2010, 08:17 AM

i have a charles daly field (semi-auto) 3" chamber 26" barrell and was wondering who has ideas for the right choke for home defense. The only chokes I currently own are that of the original gun and I know charles daly went out of business so it seems difficult to find chokes for it.

oneounceload · September 30, 2010, 09:20 AM

According to Briley here:
http://www.briley.com/currentproduct...automatic.aspx

Current CD pumps and semi's take the Remington system. so chokes are readily available.

As to which one for HD, what do you currently have? Most will work for HD distances and payload without any issues

natman · September 30, 2010, 12:16 PM

Use a cylinder choke if you have one, improved cylinder if you don't.

arizona98tj · September 30, 2010, 01:06 PM

While you can get recommendations for a choke....and even a specific load....I personally wouldn't use any of them for HD until I tried the various combinations in MY shotgun to see how they patterned at the min and max distances you will be experiencing. Not doing so would be foolish.

Rifleman1776 · September 30, 2010, 01:13 PM

Doesn't matter. At in home ranges the pattern doesn't open enough to really have a spread. You are essentially shooting a pre-fragmented slug.

Old Grump · September 30, 2010, 01:32 PM

I lean in the other direction, I don't want my shot spreading out like it will from Cylinder, I want it on the boogerman so I would choose at least Modified. My guns have Improved Modified and two have full choke but IM works for me.

Longest distance I can shoot in my house is just a hair over 24' good for about 3" and at more likely distances a hole just big enough to stick a finger or two in. Home invader threatening my family or me gets the full benefit of the shot and I probably don't have to shoot twice unless there is more than one.

What I would recommend that instead of worrying about what choke you have is to install a ghost ring or some other kind of fast acquisition sight on the gun to make sure your shot will go where you want it to go. It isn't an automatic hit just because it's a shot gun and not a handgun or rifle.

Sarge · September 30, 2010, 01:43 PM

Just FWIW I leave the Improved Cylinder tube in my 21" 870 Special Purpose. It'll keep Super X OO buck in the chest of a B27 at 25 yards, plants a slug exactly behind the bead to about twice that distance, and it does a decent job on dove & quail unless they get spooky, late in the season.

arizona98tj · September 30, 2010, 02:44 PM

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I lean in the other direction, I don't want my shot spreading out like it will from Cylinder, I want it on the boogerman so I would choose at least Modified.

Unbuffered buckshot can produce a larger pattern in a modified choke than it does in a less restricted choke. Seeing what a specific load with a specific choke does in your gun is important....some of those loads rarely read the forums so they don't know how they are "suppose" to perform.

markj · September 30, 2010, 04:39 PM

Depends on what you plan on shooting, a slug will need an open or IC, 00 same. No. 2 I would use mod or full.

Best thing is get all the chokes, several boxes of ammo and a few old sheets. Hang sheets SD distance and shoot it up to see what works best in the gun.

You will have fun and will learn a bit about the shooter.

SoilworK777 · September 30, 2010, 05:55 PM

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some of those loads rarely read the forums so they don't know how they are "suppose" to perform.

That's funny. I'd have to agree with you. At 20 or 30 feet my 18.5 inch IC barrel spreads 9 00 buck pellets about 12 or 18 inches.

Old Grump · September 30, 2010, 07:09 PM

Thats why one of my guns is IC, another is IM and two are full choke. Can't go by book and somebody elses experience with their gun, need to buy the variety and try some trigger time for your gun.

Just a weird example, shooting buck out of my .410 with Full Choke it will consistently pout 4 out of the 5 pellets in a full size rabbit target at 30 yards. My 10 gauge with Full Choke will be doing really good to get one pellet on paper let alone in the rabbit but I have a beautiful scattering of shot all around the target.

At 8 yards, the longest distance I could shoot in the house they are all devastating but the IC and IM are the tightest.

Webleymkv · September 30, 2010, 09:55 PM

You really need to pattern your gun with different chokes and the loading you intend to use. Shotgun patterning is an extremely difficult thing to predict and what works well in one gun may not in another. Personally, I'd get three choke tubes: Improved Cylinder, Modified, and Full. Between these three chokes, you should have most anything you'd need to do with your shotgun covered. Pattern your chosen loading with all three chokes and use whichever one patterns most to your liking.

aroundchicago · September 30, 2010, 10:03 PM

Inside a home and ranges of under 25 feet, frankly it's not going to matter how it's choked.

younggun1 · September 30, 2010, 10:52 PM

it all depends on how far your shooting, you not gonna want a full choke for close up work. also what ammo are you running in it??? slugs, buckshot or bird shot?? ic or c for buck shot/ slugs, like i said for birdshot how far you shooting?? you'll probably be fine with a ic or c hopped i could hep

Spindrift · October 14, 2010, 03:39 PM

I'd be more concerned about wielding a 26" barrel inside a house than the choke.

zippy13 · October 14, 2010, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aroundchicago

Inside a home and ranges of under 25 feet, frankly it's not going to matter how it's choked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spindrift

I'd be more concerned about wielding a 26" barrel inside a house than the choke.

Yep and yep, a double +1

clemsonbloz · October 14, 2010, 08:10 PM

at HD ranges, no choke is gonna open up much,, like under 10 yards..

Full, super full, light modified, skeet,,, I'd rather not get shot at with any at close range

Spindrift · October 15, 2010, 12:50 PM

Last week I tested a 12 Ga 9 pellet buck shot at 120 feet at a 12 inch target. Not one pellet hit the target. I know 120 feet isn't an indoors shot, but that should give some idea as to spread.

Yes it was sighted in. The following shot was a slug, and was about 2" to the left of DC.

September 30, 2010, 08:17 AM	#1
rsh32crew Member Join Date: November 24, 2008 Posts: 53	the right choke for home defense i have a charles daly field (semi-auto) 3" chamber 26" barrell and was wondering who has ideas for the right choke for home defense. The only chokes I currently own are that of the original gun and I know charles daly went out of business so it seems difficult to find chokes for it. __________________ A Jelly Donut?!?!?!?!

September 30, 2010, 01:06 PM	#4
arizona98tj Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 753	While you can get recommendations for a choke....and even a specific load....I personally wouldn't use any of them for HD until I tried the various combinations in MY shotgun to see how they patterned at the min and max distances you will be experiencing. Not doing so would be foolish. __________________ stu-offroad.com Largest Jeep TJ project site on the web! (now with guns)

September 30, 2010, 01:32 PM	#6
Old Grump Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2009 Location: Blue River Wisconsin, in a little hut in the woods Posts: 3,124	I lean in the other direction, I don't want my shot spreading out like it will from Cylinder, I want it on the boogerman so I would choose at least Modified. My guns have Improved Modified and two have full choke but IM works for me. Longest distance I can shoot in my house is just a hair over 24' good for about 3" and at more likely distances a hole just big enough to stick a finger or two in. Home invader threatening my family or me gets the full benefit of the shot and I probably don't have to shoot twice unless there is more than one. What I would recommend that instead of worrying about what choke you have is to install a ghost ring or some other kind of fast acquisition sight on the gun to make sure your shot will go where you want it to go. It isn't an automatic hit just because it's a shot gun and not a handgun or rifle. __________________ Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power. The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern will, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. --Daniel Webster--

September 30, 2010, 01:43 PM	#7
Sarge Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2002 Location: MO Posts: 4,349	Just FWIW I leave the Improved Cylinder tube in my 21" 870 Special Purpose. It'll keep Super X OO buck in the chest of a B27 at 25 yards, plants a slug exactly behind the bead to about twice that distance, and it does a decent job on dove & quail unless they get spooky, late in the season. __________________ Visit us at The Sixgun Journal or the archive, at http://sargesrollcall.blogspot.com/

September 30, 2010, 07:09 PM	#11
Old Grump Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2009 Location: Blue River Wisconsin, in a little hut in the woods Posts: 3,124	Thats why one of my guns is IC, another is IM and two are full choke. Can't go by book and somebody elses experience with their gun, need to buy the variety and try some trigger time for your gun. Just a weird example, shooting buck out of my .410 with Full Choke it will consistently pout 4 out of the 5 pellets in a full size rabbit target at 30 yards. My 10 gauge with Full Choke will be doing really good to get one pellet on paper let alone in the rabbit but I have a beautiful scattering of shot all around the target. At 8 yards, the longest distance I could shoot in the house they are all devastating but the IC and IM are the tightest. __________________ Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power. The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern will, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. --Daniel Webster--

September 30, 2010, 09:20 AM	#2
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	According to Briley here: http://www.briley.com/currentproduct...automatic.aspx Current CD pumps and semi's take the Remington system. so chokes are readily available. As to which one for HD, what do you currently have? Most will work for HD distances and payload without any issues

September 30, 2010, 12:16 PM	#3
natman Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2008 Posts: 1,044	Use a cylinder choke if you have one, improved cylinder if you don't.

September 30, 2010, 01:13 PM	#5
Rifleman1776 Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,836	Doesn't matter. At in home ranges the pattern doesn't open enough to really have a spread. You are essentially shooting a pre-fragmented slug.

September 30, 2010, 04:39 PM	#9
markj Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2005 Location: Crescent Iowa Posts: 2,830	Depends on what you plan on shooting, a slug will need an open or IC, 00 same. No. 2 I would use mod or full. Best thing is get all the chokes, several boxes of ammo and a few old sheets. Hang sheets SD distance and shoot it up to see what works best in the gun. You will have fun and will learn a bit about the shooter.

September 30, 2010, 09:55 PM	#12
Webleymkv Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 9,404	You really need to pattern your gun with different chokes and the loading you intend to use. Shotgun patterning is an extremely difficult thing to predict and what works well in one gun may not in another. Personally, I'd get three choke tubes: Improved Cylinder, Modified, and Full. Between these three chokes, you should have most anything you'd need to do with your shotgun covered. Pattern your chosen loading with all three chokes and use whichever one patterns most to your liking. __________________ Smith, and Wesson, and Me. -H. Callahan Well waddaya know, one buwwet weft! -E. Fudd All bad precedents begin as justifiable measures. -J. Caesar

September 30, 2010, 10:03 PM	#13
aroundchicago Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2010 Location: The Worst Place For Gun Owners Posts: 151	Inside a home and ranges of under 25 feet, frankly it's not going to matter how it's choked.

September 30, 2010, 10:52 PM	#14
younggun1 Junior Member Join Date: September 28, 2010 Posts: 3	chokes it all depends on how far your shooting, you not gonna want a full choke for close up work. also what ammo are you running in it??? slugs, buckshot or bird shot?? ic or c for buck shot/ slugs, like i said for birdshot how far you shooting?? you'll probably be fine with a ic or c hopped i could hep

October 14, 2010, 03:39 PM	#15
Spindrift Member Join Date: October 14, 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 27	I'd be more concerned about wielding a 26" barrel inside a house than the choke. __________________ If you have nothing worth dying for, you have nothing worth living for.

October 14, 2010, 08:10 PM	#17
clemsonbloz Member Join Date: June 3, 2010 Posts: 83	at HD ranges, no choke is gonna open up much,, like under 10 yards.. Full, super full, light modified, skeet,,, I'd rather not get shot at with any at close range

October 15, 2010, 12:50 PM	#18
Spindrift Member Join Date: October 14, 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 27	Last week I tested a 12 Ga 9 pellet buck shot at 120 feet at a 12 inch target. Not one pellet hit the target. I know 120 feet isn't an indoors shot, but that should give some idea as to spread. Yes it was sighted in. The following shot was a slug, and was about 2" to the left of DC. __________________ If you have nothing worth dying for, you have nothing worth living for.