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Old September 19, 2010, 06:54 PM   #1
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Bought a Nagant marked 1932 with holster. In the pouch on the holster there was a fired cartridge case with a wad-cutter lodged in it. There is a square hole cut in the case, and two through and through holes as seen in picture. Cannot read the base of the case, but it fits in the cylinder. It measures 38.62mm long. There was also a fired lead wad cutter as shown with a diameter of 7.66mm. Any ideas as to what this all might be? I cannot imagine what it is.P1010010abc.jpg
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Old September 19, 2010, 07:27 PM   #2
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The cartridge case appears to be a 7.62x38mmR Nagant case. I would guess the holes in the case indicate its a dummy round.
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Old September 19, 2010, 08:20 PM   #3
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Hmmm

Why the carefully cut square hole and the other two round ones? Plus there is a wadcutter slug wedged into the case, just above the square hole.
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Old September 19, 2010, 08:26 PM   #4
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well what company imported the revolver into USA? most likely included the fired slug as the politically correct barrel slug that some states require for forensic databases.

The cut up case is most likely to show you correct seating depth and composition of the cartridge. So you dont get freaked out when you see a boxof ammo with the bullets seated so far down inside the case.
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Old September 19, 2010, 08:27 PM   #5
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The wadcutter is in the normal position for the Nagant target round; the bullet is seated well down in the case. The holes look to me like someone wanted to either find out where the bullet was or make up a demonstration round showing that. It doesn't look like factory work to me.

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Old September 20, 2010, 02:20 AM   #6
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Maybe they made it into a whistle.
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Old September 20, 2010, 05:09 PM   #7
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There are no import marks on it. The condition is so good it may have been re-blued and perhaps the marks were taken off. The case has a primer imprint. Thanks for the help. Just curious.
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Old September 22, 2010, 07:56 PM   #8
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Now I'm really intrigued. In looking it up in Wikipedia, I see the cartridge when unfired, is "necked' down. Bullet is apparently in case as noted above. The casing I have shows no evidence of that. Do they expand after being fired so you don't see this? Where can one get ammo for it? According to the article, .32 SW Long and .32 HR Magnum can be fired, but not recommended. They say you can buy a cylinder for .32 to use with it. Haven't googled for that yet.
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Old September 23, 2010, 12:48 AM   #9
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Old September 23, 2010, 07:40 AM   #10
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Nagant Revolver Ammunition sources:

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info....oducts_id/1572

http://www.southernohiogun.com/762-n...roduction.html

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.as...ag&groupid=124

http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/Brow...g=653***691***

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...y/categoryId/6

It seems to run between $22 and $26 per 50 rounds. My understanding is that the bottle neck expands out when the cartridge is fired, which is part of the gas sealing function. I've never shot any factory ammunition through my Nagant, I use my own handloads formed from .32-20 brass using a Lee die set, they work fine but don't result in a gas seal.
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Old September 25, 2010, 03:33 PM   #11
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.38

The case is marked .38 and 85 (I presume the year). It fits pretty well in the cylinder hole with about 1/16" beyond, that matches up with the bore when trigger is pulled and fired. It is clearly longer than a .38 special. Must be one of the other .38's but haven't tried to look it up yet.
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