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Old August 15, 2010, 03:04 PM   #1
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New gun for girlfriend to use?

I am looking at buying a bolt gun in .223 for my GF to use when we shoot. I have no brand loyalty and am thinking, Savage, Rem, or Howa. Do you guys have any other suggestions? I will need a youth model or a shorter aftermarket stock. I would like to stick $500 but not a major concern.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/54803

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/43529

http://www.remington.com/products/fi...ung-bucks.aspx

Any other suggestions or comments will help alot.

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Old August 15, 2010, 03:12 PM   #2
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Any of the three you mentioned would make her a good rifle.
But I bet she sure would look nice shooting a Ruger M77 Hawkeye .223.
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Old August 15, 2010, 03:23 PM   #3
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All the above seems fine. Howa's are a great value. Savages are accurate and very reasonably priced, and the Remington will probably have the best fit and finish of them all, without sacrificing accuracy, but will likely cost the most.

I would recommend you consider the Stevens 200. I have one in .223 and it's a fine little gun for the price. Not a youth model, but it's not that big either. You could probably pick one up for $325 OTD, or less if on sale.

That leaves $$ a scope, or maybe a night on the town if that's her thing.
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Old August 15, 2010, 03:30 PM   #4
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You would have to have the stock cut down, but after using a detachable box magazine, I'll never go back to a rifle with a floorplate or internal box.

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Old August 15, 2010, 06:26 PM   #5
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Since the fit of the rifle to her dimensions is of extreme importance, my opinion is that she should have the opportunity to "feel and fondle" before any purchase is made. Length of pull, drop at comb; these make a big difference in "shootability" when proper for the person...
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Old August 15, 2010, 08:10 PM   #6
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you might want to take a look at these:

http://cz-usa.com/products/by-catego...terfire-micro/
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Old August 15, 2010, 09:44 PM   #7
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The CZ carbine would be nice, but the stock is pretty long despite it's small size. The prices have gone way up since I bought mine a few years ago.

I know you said bolt gun, would it be for hunting or does she want to just plink at the range? If plinker, consider a Saiga 5.56 for ~$420.
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Old August 15, 2010, 09:54 PM   #8
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The savage predator is a pleasure to shoot... Very accurate and easy to shoot well...
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Old August 15, 2010, 10:37 PM   #9
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I have owned a Stevens 200(Savage) and a Howa 1500 both in .223 and they were both fine rifles. The Stevens was cheap and ugly but shot great, held 7 rounds in the magazine and was very accurate. The Howa was also a good shooter and had a nicer safety, hinged floorplate, good fit & finish, etc. They both had easily adjustable factory triggers and it's not hard to get a good pull out of them. I see that you can now get a Howa that comes with 2 stocks (short & regular) for a pretty decent price and that is what I would recomend in your situation. I have nothing good to say about the new Remingtons being made. Bad customer service, severe cheapening of the guns, just skating along on a previous good reputation and name. I like my older Remingtons, but the last couple of guns I have had experience with were un-accurate, poorly working, and cheaply made.........but still had that high Remington price tag.
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Old August 15, 2010, 11:33 PM   #10
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I'd recommend taking her to a gun shop and letting her try on a few. After watching my wife pick out a shotgun for herself, there's no way I'd recommend buying one for a woman without her handling it first.

That said, I'd try either Savage or Marlin. Both are accurate and affordable.
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Old August 16, 2010, 12:04 AM   #11
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I'm kind of partial to Savage. I picked up a 110 in .223 about 4 years ago. It had the original stock that some one over tightened and ruined anyway put it in a Choate Super Sniper and the rifle shoots 1/4" groups at 100 all day long. It is the 1 in 9 62 gr. and up and that old rascal will shoot it. It has a BSA platinum 6 x 24 x 44 scope Harris bipod and I'll put it up against almost any other rifle out there. So that's my 2 cents take it for what it's worth
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Old August 16, 2010, 05:50 PM   #12
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Thank you all

I will let her try a few on and just watch her reaction and ease of shoulder. I am starting to lean towards the stevens, savage, and howa but if I can find a CZ around here that as well, I know that is the short list right! So it goes with women and guns
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Old August 16, 2010, 05:55 PM   #13
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Its nice to see a guy that wants to pick a sensible gun for his GF for a change... Way too many women are turned off to guns after shooting something they shouldn't, due to the stupidity of their father, BF, or husband...
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Old August 21, 2010, 10:47 PM   #14
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Got IT

SO I bid on and won a Stevens/Savage 200 in .223 with glass and I only paid 389 and plus shipping and such. So I figure a bit $400 total and she will be happy for years. I will post up her targets and some hopefully in the next few once I get the rifle.

Q, anything I should be wary of or questions I should ask the shop as this is my first time with an online auction?
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Old August 21, 2010, 10:56 PM   #15
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New girlfriend for my guns? I need one. Just putting it out there. FTF only DFW.
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Old August 21, 2010, 11:01 PM   #16
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IF it was a FNP.45T I would do it but not for FNX you know how it is!!!
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Old August 22, 2010, 01:33 AM   #17
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I have a Howa 1500 in 30-06 and love it! It cost $450 equipped with a $150 Nikko Stirling scope.
The rings were on the cheap side, (aluminum,) but with a 223 they might work well.
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Old August 22, 2010, 09:06 AM   #18
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Here is the Auction that I won. I checked a couple of sites and this was a decent deal and won at $389. So no new jeeps parts or new .308 rounds this pay cycle but she will be happy and after all my name will be on it!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=185075152
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FYI - If you're looking at a Rem. 700, they have a $100. rebate for most all 700s till end of year. Remington
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Old August 22, 2010, 10:21 AM   #20
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I am looking at buying a bolt gun in .223 for my GF .... Do you guys have any other suggestions?
Let her pick.

I don’t care if the reason is “it’s pretty” or “the other one smelled”. Some day your going to need to remember “happy wife, happy life”.
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Old August 22, 2010, 10:39 AM   #21
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well I bought her a Stevens 200, just the basic and we will build Modify as needed to get it to her liking!
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Old August 22, 2010, 12:31 PM   #22
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J Morris +1!, A happy wife is essential to all things we love dearly... Happy shooting Mrs. kaylorinhi !!
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Old August 22, 2010, 01:48 PM   #23
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I had a Savage 110 in .243. Very excellent rifle. And the price was very attractive. At the price, you could trim down the stock without crying. The wood isn't fancy or costly. And, if you ever replace another stock won't break the bank either.
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Old August 22, 2010, 01:59 PM   #24
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I agree with the sugestion of a CZ. I have the 527 American in .221 Rem Fireball. It is more acurate than most people are capable of shooting. (Me included.) I would recomend the .223 version over .221 for reason of ammo avalability. As well as easy to load for with range pickup brass. (Gotta love those guys shooting ARs leaving a butt load of brass all over the place, I alwaays volentere to pick it up)
I have shot the Remington Mod 700 VTR in .223. I was impressed with it over all. I have a shot a Savage long range .223 with a heavy stainless bull barrel I was also impressed by it. Acuracy of both are beyond what most of us get out of them.
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Old August 22, 2010, 08:56 PM   #25
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I did end up going with a stevens in .223, I have a DPMS in 5.56, and I believe the Stevens will be a good first rifle. She actually mentioned today that she is saving for her rifle today so the CZ or other personnel fit gun after cutting and such on this one, besides at $389 for the entire set-up(glass and rings included) I could not beat it.

Please continue the suggestions as she will be ready probably around christmas for her purchase of her first.

Q. Off hand is the Stevens rated for 5.56 NATO pressures, being a bolt gun i suspect it would handle it but dont want to push it?
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