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Old January 22, 2015, 09:50 PM   #1
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Wyoming Gun Bills.

It's that time of year again. Wyoming legislature is in session, and I'm perusing the list of bills on http://legisweb.state.wy.us. This is the first one I've come across so far. HB 114, repeal "Gun Free Zones". I copied and pasted and tried to clean it up as best I could for readability.


A BILL for AN ACT relating to concealed weapons;
creating a Wyoming Repeal Gun Free Zones Act; creating exceptions for the
carrying of concealed weapons by permit holders as 3specified;and providing for an effective date.

Be It Enacted by the Legislature of the State of Wyoming:
Section 1.
W.S. 6-8-105 is created to read:
6-8-105.

Exceptions for state issued concealed carry permits.
(a)This section shall be known and may be cited as the "Wyoming Repeal Gun Free Zones Act."

HB0114
(b)Persons holding a valid concealed carry permit issued by the state of Wyoming under W.S. 6-8-104(a)(ii) may carry a concealed weapon in the following places:
(i) Any meeting of a governmental entity;
(ii) Any meeting of the legislature or a committee thereof;
(iii) Any public school, college or professional athletic event whether or not
related to firearms;
(iv) Any public elementary or secondary school facility; and
(v) Any public college or university facility without the written consent of the security service of the college or university.

(c) Nothing in this section shall be construed to:
(i) Alter concealed weapon prohibitions relating to courtrooms as specified in W.S. 6-8-104(t)(iii);
(ii) Prohibit a property owner from restricting firearms on his private property.

Section 2.
W.S. 6-8-104(t)(intro) is amended to read:

6-8-104. Wearing or carrying concealed weapons; penalties; exceptions; permits.

(t) Except as provided in W.S. 6-8-105, no person authorized to carry a concealed weapon pursuant to paragraphs (a)(ii) through (iv) of this section shall carry a concealed firearm into:

Section 3. This act is effective immediately upon completion of all acts necessary for a bill to become law as provided by Article 4, Section 8 of the Wyoming Constitution.

(END)
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Old January 24, 2015, 11:53 PM   #2
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Gotta love Wyoming. Beautiful country and great people who seem to have a great deal of common sense.

best wishes- oldandslow
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Old January 28, 2015, 08:55 PM   #3
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This bill was passed out of committee today and placed on the House general file.
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Old February 2, 2015, 09:41 PM   #4
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The bill has passed the 3rd reading in the House and has been sent on to the Senate. Three amendments to limit rights failed and a fourth was withdrawn.
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Old February 3, 2015, 11:47 AM   #5
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http://wyomingpublicmedia.org/post/w...s-gov-meetings

This was posted on Wyoming NPR web this morning. The anti-gun hysteria is starting. Reading the comments, they are exactly what I would expect from NPR viewers in Wyoming. Like it or not, even in this conservative bastion called Wyoming, many anti-gun people cling to the thought of blood running in the streets if commoners are given any more freedom to control their own safety.

I hope this bill passes with flying colors in the Wyoming Senate. Then we can see if our Governor is a true Constitutional supporter!
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Old February 3, 2015, 01:19 PM   #6
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From one of the comments in the linked article:

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Just because he passes a background check and is a law abiding citizen doesn't mean he won't temporarily lose his mind and decide to shoot someone. Chances of an accidental shooting in our schools are much greater than a gun stopping a crime.
This is one of the arguments I've been hearing more often over the last year: any person, no matter how sober and sensible, could lapse into insanity under stress. Therefore, we can't trust anybody with guns. It's a tough one to counter.
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Old February 3, 2015, 01:50 PM   #7
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Wyoming Gun Bills

You're not wrong about somebody funding thes people and writing the scrips for them across the Country.
We know Bloomberg is and I've heard other names.
In addition it is has been said the Administration has a hand in the game.
I don't know.
We do know there is conspiracy and it was wide open for the viewing in Colorado, NY NJ, Az and so on. It seems to have reached new levels in Texas with people pretending to be open carry advocates submarining the effort.
JMO
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Old February 3, 2015, 07:03 PM   #8
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Tom, have you asked them how many people they personally know have instantly gone from upstanding "normal" person to attempting murder?
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Old February 3, 2015, 11:11 PM   #9
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Tom, have you asked them how many people they personally know have instantly gone from upstanding "normal" person to attempting murder?
Oh, but that's not the point. It could happen to anybody, and at any time.

Therefore, we need common-sense gun laws. Like restricting carry. Then banning carry. Then restricting guns. Then banning guns. See? 71.6% of the people who answered my survey (I WON'T SHARE MY DATA SHUT UP STINKY GUN FETISHIST) agree.
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Old February 4, 2015, 09:46 PM   #10
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Chances of an accidental shooting in our schools are much greater than a gun stopping a crime.
I'm not sure how I'd argue against this part. School shootings, while always tragic, are still fairly rare, they just get a ton of media attention. The number of ND's from "unloaded" guns is exponentially larger. There are, unfortunately, quite a few functional idiots walking around with a "piece" in their pocket or waistband.

Passing a background check, along with some prior military service or taking a hunter safety course, are all you really need for a CCW permit here. Those requirements don't necessarily exclude idiots.

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Old February 7, 2015, 01:57 PM   #11
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(ii) Prohibit a property owner from restricting firearms on his private property.
As BillM points out below, I misread the law. Now that I have seen the error of my ways, I would support it 100%.

Thanks Bill.
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Old February 7, 2015, 02:17 PM   #12
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Uncle Buck--I think you are mis-reading it.


"(c) Nothing in this section shall be construed to:
(i) Alter concealed weapon prohibitions relating to courtrooms as specified in W.S. 6-8-104(t)(iii);
(ii) Prohibit a property owner from restricting firearms on his private property."


What it says is that a private property owner has the right to restrict
carry on his/her property. Their property, their rules.

As it should be.
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Old February 7, 2015, 02:57 PM   #13
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Yes Bill, I do believe you are correct. I really need to see if I can get a refund on that speed reading course I almost completed. :-)
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Old February 19, 2015, 02:53 PM   #14
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"Passing a background check, along with some prior military service or taking a hunter safety course, are all you really need for a CCW permit here. Those requirements don't necessarily exclude idiots."

Being born guarantees you will do something stupid or idiotic at some point in your life.
That doesn't mean you will kill or even injure anyone. And it certainly shouldn't keep you from being able to protect family, friends & yourself.

There is no proof that required formal training prevents gun accidents over states that have NO training requirements.
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Old February 19, 2015, 11:42 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Tom Servo
This is one of the arguments I've been hearing more often over the last year: any person, no matter how sober and sensible, could lapse into insanity under stress. Therefore, we can't trust anybody with guns. It's a tough one to counter.
I would point out to these people that using this "logic" or line of reasoning could apply to anyone and anything, so it is meaningless; all people are capable of being ax murderers, so all axes must be banned, all people are capable of killing people with a vehicle while drunk, so all vehicles must be banned, etc, etc, etc. It's worse than guilty until proven innocent. It's guilty no matter what.
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Old February 20, 2015, 12:27 AM   #16
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Oh, but that's not the point. It could happen to anybody, and at any time.
Ask them why police and other government officials are immune to this. (they won't have an answer)
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Old February 23, 2015, 07:51 PM   #17
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I made the title of the tread plural "bills" because I expected more bills to be introduced, but this one is it. They just mentioned on the news tonight that it will have a public committee hearing Wednesday morning. Friday is the last day for bills to be voted out of committee. I won't be at all surprised if the Education committee just lets this one die.
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Old February 26, 2015, 10:04 PM   #18
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So, the Senate Ed. committee has basically rewritten the original bill. I was going to paste it in here but that requires a lot of editing to reformat the text of the PDF.

So here's a link to the "substitute" bill: http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2015/Amends/HB0114SUB.pdf

It passed out of committee with a "do pass" recommendation, but if the full Senate passes it will have to go to joint resolution committee.
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