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Old July 12, 2010, 09:25 AM   #1
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Saiga .308 vs Savage .308

If one is olny shooting milsurp ammo, would the Savage Bolta action still be significantly more accurate than a Savage .308?
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Old July 12, 2010, 12:00 PM   #2
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My Saiga is quite accurate, that's the only one I have experience with.
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Old July 12, 2010, 12:27 PM   #3
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Not trying to nit-pic but isn't mil surplus 7.62x31?, (sorry if that's the wrong "x31" I don't have anything in that caliber). I think that the saiga is set up for nato specs but the savage would probably be .308. I don't think that it is safe to shoot 7.62nato in a .308 gun.
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Old July 12, 2010, 12:30 PM   #4
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The answer to your question is.........You may get a Saiga that's amazing or a Savage that can't hit the side of a barn but 99% of the time the Savage will have vastly better accuracy with any ammo.

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Old July 12, 2010, 01:10 PM   #5
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""Not trying to nit-pic but isn't mil surplus 7.62x31?, (sorry if that's the wrong "x31" I don't have anything in that caliber). I think that the saiga is set up for nato specs but the savage would probably be .308. I don't think that it is safe to shoot 7.62nato in a .308 gun.""

do you know what you are talking about the 7.62x31 is a completely different round than the 7.62 nato the 7.62 nato is 7.62x51 its two completely diffrent rounds
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Old July 12, 2010, 04:01 PM   #6
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The Savage 110 FP in .308 is one of the most accurate bolt action rifles out of the box for its price range. I would definitely go with a bolt gun over any Saiga semi-auto if accuracy is the concern. A properly equipped Bolt Gun with decent optics and quality mounts and rings will shoot circles around a Kalishnikov with the standard receiver scope mount.

Not bashing Saiga, but a comparison between these two is really not realistic.

And, by the way, it is perfectly safe to shoot 7.62 X 51 NATO in a .308 rifle. I do it all the time.....
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Old July 12, 2010, 05:59 PM   #7
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I don't think that it is safe to shoot 7.62nato in a .308 gun.
Wherever did you get that idea? It's perfectly safe. The cartridges have identical external dimensions, and contrary to what you might be thinking, the pressure levels are essentially identical as well. The ONLY difference is that the chamber spec for 7.62x51mm is ever so slightly longer than that of .308 Winchester to provide greater tolerances for military functioning. That's it.

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Old July 12, 2010, 06:50 PM   #8
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CROCKETTOO7 is dead on noway nohow would the saiga shoot with the savage I have the 308 saiga my buddy has the savage been there done that got the T-SHIRT.BUT i'd rather hog hunt with with the Saiga both guns have there place.
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Old July 12, 2010, 10:39 PM   #9
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get the numbers right

There is no 7.62 x31 ctg, commercially anyhow.

There is a 7.62x 51, which is sometimes called 7.62 NATO. In civies its .308Win

There is the 7.62 x 39 Soviet, which is the AK/SKS round, which sometimes appears in sport bolt rifles.

And just to confuse things there's the 7.62x54R, Russian, the pre -WWI bolt rifle ctg of the Mosin-Nagant. (and WWII, and still current in MG's and the Draganov)

Maybe we all knew that, but nobody set it straight that I saw.
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Old July 13, 2010, 01:00 AM   #10
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If you are shooting milsurp ammo you can expect 2.5~3 minutes of accuracy from either a Savage or Saiga.

There are exceptions to that statement, such as good lots of Radway Green, Hirtenberger, DAG, or Lake City Match or LR. But for the most part M80 ball equivalent isn't going to group particularly well from any rifle.

The better quality your ammo, the more the Savage will tighten up over the Saiga. But the Saiga will always have a faster follow up shot barring failure to cycle.

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