Policewoman ends hostage situation in seconds

Anthrax · July 11, 2010, 09:43 PM

Since I'm new, Don't really know the rules about posting videos but I think one can learn a great deal from this amazing footage of a hostage crisis being handled.

This Chinese police woman ends the hostage situation in a matter of seconds when she took the chance. The guy was holding a girl hostage at an ATM with a knife pointed at her throat. He kept stabbing her repeatedly while making demands.

Armed with a Makarov (Oh Yeah) the Police officer's first shot was dead on and eliminated the threat right there and then. Props to her for holding her nerves, taking a well aimed shot and then using her training to stay calm after putting down a cold and insane killer. She smiles for the camera later as if saying "Just another day at the job!"

Fast forward to 5:00. That's when the action takes place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbvJbW9Tr80

grubbylabs · July 11, 2010, 10:05 PM

You forgot to put subtitles in

Just kidding that was a interesting video. Makes you think how things would be in our country if law enforcement could do that.

MJN77 · July 11, 2010, 10:06 PM

Now that S.O.B. had a bad day.

usaign · July 11, 2010, 10:06 PM

The thing about the video that could not occur here in the United States is how she executed the man. The man was on the ground and she continued to shoot him. At one point, he was laying totally lifeless on the ground and she have him another. I dont think the police could get away with that here.

She was obviously shooting to kill, but not to stop the threat. When the man fell lifeless to the ground is probably when the shooting should have stopped, but then she walked over to him and gave him another to finish him off. In some countries, the police are the judge and executioners.

Rayndeon · July 11, 2010, 10:10 PM

Can't say I agree with the last three shots - she had basically stopped the threat by that point, but excellent close-range shooting there. She basically shot him in the head one-handed while moving and waited when the hostage taker was distracted before making her move.

Another police officer - or perhaps a bystander - was drinking right before she made her move. I guess for him it was just another day in China!

Anthrax · July 11, 2010, 10:11 PM

Good points brought up, guys.

Shots should have stopped after the first one, true, but I guess that's why we're all so different.

As for the guy who was tasting 9x18's on the other end, I guess it wasn't his day.

Anthrax · July 11, 2010, 10:16 PM

Rayndeon;

That was also another cop. The entire street was sealed. They were just trying to get to his "Comfort Zone" offering him some coke while proving that it wasn't poisoned or something.

Rayndeon · July 11, 2010, 10:25 PM

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Is there any word on why the threat was holding that girl hostage at all?

MJN77 · July 11, 2010, 10:31 PM

The way I look at it is, the dead guy was willing to hurt and/or kill an innocent woman for personal reasons. Her life did not matter to him in the least. So in MY opinion I don't care if the cop emptied her gun into him twice. He would not have been shot at all if he didn't attack the victim. He brought it onto himself and got what he deserved.

Young.Gun.612 · July 11, 2010, 10:46 PM

Yeah, I don't totally agree with the follow up shots while he's laying there already dead. But I agree with what's been said, he set out to possibly hurt an innocent person. His life is exponentially less important that the innocent woman the police officer saved.

Anthrax · July 11, 2010, 10:49 PM

Rayndeon;

Can't really understand that much, since it's not my first language or fifth for that matter but watching the whole video, and picking up a few words made me realize what was going on.

Catfishman · July 11, 2010, 10:50 PM

Shoot 'em dead and break out the windex!

Old Grump · July 12, 2010, 12:05 AM

Guy had been taking coke, acting crazy, stabbing his hostage, no problem, shoot till the gun is empty. I doubt that she was barely aware of her follow up shots in the adrenaline rush.

If she had hesitated then shot him I would have been a little suspicious but this was all part of one act, one shooting. I won't second guess her in China or Milwaukee.

jgcoastie · July 12, 2010, 12:28 AM

If he's already dead, who cares about a few last ---- you rounds??? What could you charge the cop with? Excessive force? He's already dead...

teeroux · July 12, 2010, 01:04 AM

+1 You can't execute an already dead man, but you can make sure the psycho with the knife still in his hand isn't playing possum.

FM12 · July 12, 2010, 01:14 AM

Here, you can shoot them til they're down,but not til they're dead.

javabum · July 12, 2010, 02:06 AM

She sure made sure he didn't have a say so in court.....

And as another poster said cant shoot till dead but makes me think
how different things would be if it were practiced here in the states
when criminals decide to commit crimes such as in the video.....

Swiss cheese anyone.....LOL

BillCA · July 12, 2010, 03:00 AM

So far many posts have commented on the 2nd through 4th shots.

Watching the video, I don't know for sure that her first shot actually struck him or struck him enough to stop him from getting back up. Her 2nd through 4th shots may have been her reaction to his moving or simply "insurance" that he didn't lash out in close quarters.

In the US, I would hazard a guess that it might have gone down in similar fashion. A single shot fired and when he separated from the hostage, a controlled pair (double tap) or two rapidly to COM. That's provided a marksman across the street didn't use a .308 to turn his brains into an omlette.

I don't speak Mandarin so I don't know the back story. The hostage appeared to be 12-14 years old and he'd cut her a number of times with the knife. The Coca-Cola drinking, I believe was as someone else said, to show that it wasn't tainted or poisioned.

The lady officer was lucky he didn't spot her drawing her gun (it took her long enough) but there were other distractions for him to focus on.

My sympathies go out to the hostage though. The poor girl looked dazed and bewildered most of the time. I'm sure she'll have some PTSD after this.

Double Naught Spy · July 12, 2010, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Policewoman ends hostage situation in seconds

Shots ended Charlie Whitman's spree in seconds as well. Many situations end very quickly. The problem is all the time that passes before the situation ends.

ClayInTx · July 12, 2010, 09:33 AM

When she first shot him he fell backward and took the hostage back with him. The follow up shot might have been to prevent him still being able to grab the hostage while they were lying on the ground.

Didn’t seem to bother the cop, she walked away smiling.

Quite amusing with the guy cleaning the window after the fray.

Looks like the BGs will have a tough time when China calls in her markers of USA bonds and takes us over.

Don P · July 12, 2010, 09:46 AM

Quote:

The man was on the ground and she continued to shoot him. At one point, he was laying totally lifeless on the ground and she have him another.

Of coarse keep shooting he was still moving and one for good luck. Look at all the money they saved. No trial, no supporting him in prison. It's a win-win situation. Plus the hostage is safe

Deaf Smith · July 12, 2010, 07:20 PM

I think this is the Tuller drill in reverse....

She closed the distance before the knife welding guy could get his OODA loop going and beaned him in the head with a Mak 9mm at something like five feet!

Good show ma'am! No ma'am I won't make any trouble officer ma'am!

Deaf

CMichael · July 12, 2010, 07:35 PM

Amazing work.

mdemetz · July 12, 2010, 09:24 PM

Chinese Hostage Negotiations(Picture sequence).

Anthrax · July 12, 2010, 09:33 PM

MdeMetz;

Those aren't the pictures from the episode posted here but that's definitely another hostage situation we'd like to see on tape. Man, some training these guys go through, eh?

July 11, 2010, 09:43 PM	#1
Anthrax Member Join Date: July 10, 2010 Location: Lahore, Pakistan. Posts: 68	Policewoman ends hostage situation in seconds Since I'm new, Don't really know the rules about posting videos but I think one can learn a great deal from this amazing footage of a hostage crisis being handled. This Chinese police woman ends the hostage situation in a matter of seconds when she took the chance. The guy was holding a girl hostage at an ATM with a knife pointed at her throat. He kept stabbing her repeatedly while making demands. Armed with a Makarov (Oh Yeah) the Police officer's first shot was dead on and eliminated the threat right there and then. Props to her for holding her nerves, taking a well aimed shot and then using her training to stay calm after putting down a cold and insane killer. She smiles for the camera later as if saying "Just another day at the job!" Fast forward to 5:00. That's when the action takes place. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbvJbW9Tr80 __________________ "If you can't name at least 20 weapons from the WW2, you're not supposed to be a firearms enthusiast."

July 11, 2010, 10:05 PM	#2
grubbylabs Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 2009 Location: Hansen Idaho Posts: 1,366	You forgot to put subtitles in Just kidding that was a interesting video. Makes you think how things would be in our country if law enforcement could do that. __________________ * (Swinging club) Whack! whack! whack! * Nope, the old nag's still dead . (Capt Charlie)

July 11, 2010, 10:11 PM	#6
Anthrax Member Join Date: July 10, 2010 Location: Lahore, Pakistan. Posts: 68	Good points brought up, guys. Shots should have stopped after the first one, true, but I guess that's why we're all so different. As for the guy who was tasting 9x18's on the other end, I guess it wasn't his day. __________________ "If you can't name at least 20 weapons from the WW2, you're not supposed to be a firearms enthusiast."

July 11, 2010, 10:16 PM	#7
Anthrax Member Join Date: July 10, 2010 Location: Lahore, Pakistan. Posts: 68	Rayndeon; That was also another cop. The entire street was sealed. They were just trying to get to his "Comfort Zone" offering him some coke while proving that it wasn't poisoned or something. __________________ "If you can't name at least 20 weapons from the WW2, you're not supposed to be a firearms enthusiast."

July 11, 2010, 10:49 PM	#11
Anthrax Member Join Date: July 10, 2010 Location: Lahore, Pakistan. Posts: 68	Rayndeon; Can't really understand that much, since it's not my first language or fifth for that matter but watching the whole video, and picking up a few words made me realize what was going on. __________________ "If you can't name at least 20 weapons from the WW2, you're not supposed to be a firearms enthusiast."

July 11, 2010, 10:06 PM	#3
MJN77 Senior Member Join Date: April 27, 2009 Location: on a hill in West Virginia Posts: 572	Now that S.O.B. had a bad day.

July 11, 2010, 10:06 PM	#4
usaign Junior member Join Date: July 11, 2010 Posts: 73	The thing about the video that could not occur here in the United States is how she executed the man. The man was on the ground and she continued to shoot him. At one point, he was laying totally lifeless on the ground and she have him another. I dont think the police could get away with that here. She was obviously shooting to kill, but not to stop the threat. When the man fell lifeless to the ground is probably when the shooting should have stopped, but then she walked over to him and gave him another to finish him off. In some countries, the police are the judge and executioners.

July 11, 2010, 10:10 PM	#5
Rayndeon Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2008 Posts: 128	Can't say I agree with the last three shots - she had basically stopped the threat by that point, but excellent close-range shooting there. She basically shot him in the head one-handed while moving and waited when the hostage taker was distracted before making her move. Another police officer - or perhaps a bystander - was drinking right before she made her move. I guess for him it was just another day in China!

July 11, 2010, 10:25 PM	#8
Rayndeon Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2008 Posts: 128	Ah, thanks for the clarification. Is there any word on why the threat was holding that girl hostage at all?

July 11, 2010, 10:31 PM	#9
MJN77 Senior Member Join Date: April 27, 2009 Location: on a hill in West Virginia Posts: 572	The way I look at it is, the dead guy was willing to hurt and/or kill an innocent woman for personal reasons. Her life did not matter to him in the least. So in MY opinion I don't care if the cop emptied her gun into him twice. He would not have been shot at all if he didn't attack the victim. He brought it onto himself and got what he deserved.

July 11, 2010, 10:46 PM	#10
Young.Gun.612 Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2010 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 387	Yeah, I don't totally agree with the follow up shots while he's laying there already dead. But I agree with what's been said, he set out to possibly hurt an innocent person. His life is exponentially less important that the innocent woman the police officer saved.

July 11, 2010, 10:50 PM	#12
Catfishman Senior Member Join Date: February 10, 2009 Location: Mississippi Posts: 651	Shoot 'em dead and break out the windex!

July 12, 2010, 12:05 AM	#13
Old Grump Member in memoriam Join Date: April 9, 2009 Location: Blue River Wisconsin, in Posts: 3,144	Guy had been taking coke, acting crazy, stabbing his hostage, no problem, shoot till the gun is empty. I doubt that she was barely aware of her follow up shots in the adrenaline rush. If she had hesitated then shot him I would have been a little suspicious but this was all part of one act, one shooting. I won't second guess her in China or Milwaukee. __________________ Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power. The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern will, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. --Daniel Webster--

July 12, 2010, 12:28 AM	#14
jgcoastie Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Location: Kodiak, Alaska Posts: 2,093	If he's already dead, who cares about a few last ---- you rounds??? What could you charge the cop with? Excessive force? He's already dead... __________________ "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them." -Richard Henry Lee, Virginia delegate to the Continental Congress, initiator of the Declaration of Independence, and member of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights.

July 12, 2010, 01:04 AM	#15
teeroux Senior Member Join Date: December 12, 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,412	+1 You can't execute an already dead man, but you can make sure the psycho with the knife still in his hand isn't playing possum.

July 12, 2010, 01:14 AM	#16
FM12 Senior Member Join Date: February 5, 2007 Location: Monroeville, Alabama Posts: 1,542	Here, you can shoot them til they're down,but not til they're dead.

July 12, 2010, 02:06 AM	#17
javabum Senior Member Join Date: July 6, 2009 Location: Californication Posts: 264	She sure made sure he didn't have a say so in court..... And as another poster said cant shoot till dead but makes me think how different things would be if it were practiced here in the states when criminals decide to commit crimes such as in the video..... Swiss cheese anyone.....LOL __________________ Stupidity Should Hurt.....Immensely NRA Life member

July 12, 2010, 03:00 AM	#18
BillCA Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2004 Location: Silicon Valley, Ca Posts: 7,023	So far many posts have commented on the 2nd through 4th shots. Watching the video, I don't know for sure that her first shot actually struck him or struck him enough to stop him from getting back up. Her 2nd through 4th shots may have been her reaction to his moving or simply "insurance" that he didn't lash out in close quarters. In the US, I would hazard a guess that it might have gone down in similar fashion. A single shot fired and when he separated from the hostage, a controlled pair (double tap) or two rapidly to COM. That's provided a marksman across the street didn't use a .308 to turn his brains into an omlette. I don't speak Mandarin so I don't know the back story. The hostage appeared to be 12-14 years old and he'd cut her a number of times with the knife. The Coca-Cola drinking, I believe was as someone else said, to show that it wasn't tainted or poisioned. The lady officer was lucky he didn't spot her drawing her gun (it took her long enough) but there were other distractions for him to focus on. My sympathies go out to the hostage though. The poor girl looked dazed and bewildered most of the time. I'm sure she'll have some PTSD after this. __________________ BillCA in CA (Unfortunately)

July 12, 2010, 09:33 AM	#20
ClayInTx Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,066	When she first shot him he fell backward and took the hostage back with him. The follow up shot might have been to prevent him still being able to grab the hostage while they were lying on the ground. Didn’t seem to bother the cop, she walked away smiling. Quite amusing with the guy cleaning the window after the fray. Looks like the BGs will have a tough time when China calls in her markers of USA bonds and takes us over.

July 12, 2010, 07:20 PM	#22
Deaf Smith Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2000 Location: Texican! Posts: 2,718	I think this is the Tuller drill in reverse.... She closed the distance before the knife welding guy could get his OODA loop going and beaned him in the head with a Mak 9mm at something like five feet! Good show ma'am! No ma'am I won't make any trouble officer ma'am! Deaf __________________ "The government has confiscated all of our rights and is selling them back to us in the form of permits."

July 12, 2010, 07:35 PM	#23
CMichael Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2001 Location: MI Posts: 1,516	Amazing work. Last edited by CMichael; July 12, 2010 at 09:02 PM.

July 12, 2010, 09:24 PM	#24
mdemetz Member Join Date: September 23, 2009 Posts: 20	Chinese Hostage Negotiations(Picture sequence).

July 12, 2010, 09:33 PM	#25
Anthrax Member Join Date: July 10, 2010 Location: Lahore, Pakistan. Posts: 68	MdeMetz; Those aren't the pictures from the episode posted here but that's definitely another hostage situation we'd like to see on tape. Man, some training these guys go through, eh? __________________ "If you can't name at least 20 weapons from the WW2, you're not supposed to be a firearms enthusiast."