Duracoat too dang shiney

regal · June 25, 2010, 10:17 AM

I got a great deal on a SAR-2 AK that I converted to a correct Romanian AIMS-74. The seller had it duracoated. I am glad that it is duracoated as opposed to blueing. But I have had several of my guns coated with tuff-gun by shootiniron.com and that is a fantastic finish (just plain looks better than Duracoat.)

Anyway is there any cheap at home method I could use to turn this Duracoat into a little less glossy more matt finish so it is more authentic to the AIMS-74 (AK-74) ?

for2nato · June 25, 2010, 05:04 PM

the only thing you could try is to flash it with a solvent. to try to etch the surface and dull the finish. but....... with this method you run the risk of having a real uneven finish when all is said and done. might be best to just live with it or have it refinished.

ISC · June 25, 2010, 06:20 PM

Heavily spray black spray paint on a paper plate then dab a cotton ball onto the plate. Apply the paint to the gun in a dabbing motion. Be sure to blot out the excess from the cotton ball before dabbing it on the gun.

dreamweaver · June 25, 2010, 07:17 PM

this is matte black ceramacoat. brownells and midway carry it.

Jim Watson · June 25, 2010, 08:20 PM

Clearcoat with Duracoat Clear Matte, maybe.
(I have NOT seen it done.)

Call Lauer and ask.

regal · June 25, 2010, 09:35 PM

That matte clear looks nice, I'm in automotive paint industy and have seveal pain guns. I' degrease the heck out of it and give that a try.

thanks

Zak Smith · June 25, 2010, 10:45 PM

Funny, it looks less shiny than anodizing to me

regal · June 25, 2010, 10:48 PM

Think 2oz is enough for an AK or should I get a 4 oz can ?

Edward429451 · June 26, 2010, 12:11 PM

I'd use black spray paint and use it like they subdue camo...from a distance so it's like it got overspray. This would be temporary as it would clean right off when cleaning it. Practice on wood or something from a distance.

for2nato · June 27, 2010, 03:27 PM

spray paint will scratch and rub and flake right off of duracoat. anything with a hardness rating like duracoat does not take well to top coating. even duracoat clear needs to be applied within a window of time or you will need to abrade the surface.

RimfireChris · June 27, 2010, 03:55 PM

Has tried out the Preval disposable sprayer? And if so, how'd they work? I'd like to try my hand with Duracoat, but don't have the $ for a high end sprayer/compressor.

RimfireChris · June 27, 2010, 03:57 PM

Oops

for2nato · July 1, 2010, 03:55 PM

preval cartridge spayers are decent if the material is reduced right. if not then you will see significant orange peal in the finish. but if done right you will be happy with the end result. my suggestion is to practice the spray on a test area. like a brush out card.

LukeA · July 1, 2010, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Funny, it looks less shiny than anodizing to me

Matte finish duracoat is less shiny than gloss finish duracoat. You don't say.

Old Guard Dog · July 6, 2010, 09:35 AM

For2nado is right. If you wait too long between coats, the Duracoat becomes too hard for a good tooth between coats. As I remember, it is 48 hrs.

RoyP · July 6, 2010, 06:00 PM

you could try hitting a small area with a scotch brite pad and see what it does. I have hand polished matte duracoat to a gloss but not the other way around.

June 25, 2010, 10:17 AM	#1
regal Member Join Date: January 13, 2009 Posts: 27	Duracoat too dang shiney I got a great deal on a SAR-2 AK that I converted to a correct Romanian AIMS-74. The seller had it duracoated. I am glad that it is duracoated as opposed to blueing. But I have had several of my guns coated with tuff-gun by shootiniron.com and that is a fantastic finish (just plain looks better than Duracoat.) Anyway is there any cheap at home method I could use to turn this Duracoat into a little less glossy more matt finish so it is more authentic to the AIMS-74 (AK-74) ?

June 25, 2010, 07:17 PM	#4
dreamweaver Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2008 Posts: 713	this is matte black ceramacoat. brownells and midway carry it. __________________ http://takdriver.com/

June 25, 2010, 10:45 PM	#7
Zak Smith Senior Member Join Date: December 12, 1999 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado, USA Posts: 2,675	Funny, it looks less shiny than anodizing to me __________________ Zak Smith . DEMIGOD LLC . THUNDER BEAST ARMS CORP . COLORADO MULTI-GUN *My PM inbox full? Send e-mail instead.*

June 26, 2010, 12:11 PM	#9
Edward429451 Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,457	I'd use black spray paint and use it like they subdue camo...from a distance so it's like it got overspray. This would be temporary as it would clean right off when cleaning it. Practice on wood or something from a distance. __________________ "Always place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark" Lazarus Long "Understand that the enemy is not the enemy in his own eyes ;this may offer you an opportunity to make him your friend. If not, you can kill him without hate, and quickly." Lazarus Long

June 25, 2010, 05:04 PM	#2
for2nato Junior Member Join Date: February 4, 2010 Posts: 13	the only thing you could try is to flash it with a solvent. to try to etch the surface and dull the finish. but....... with this method you run the risk of having a real uneven finish when all is said and done. might be best to just live with it or have it refinished.

June 25, 2010, 06:20 PM	#3
ISC Junior member Join Date: August 5, 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,982	Heavily spray black spray paint on a paper plate then dab a cotton ball onto the plate. Apply the paint to the gun in a dabbing motion. Be sure to blot out the excess from the cotton ball before dabbing it on the gun.

June 25, 2010, 08:20 PM	#5
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 9,673	Clearcoat with Duracoat Clear Matte, maybe. (I have NOT seen it done.) Call Lauer and ask.

June 25, 2010, 09:35 PM	#6
regal Member Join Date: January 13, 2009 Posts: 27	That matte clear looks nice, I'm in automotive paint industy and have seveal pain guns. I' degrease the heck out of it and give that a try. thanks

June 25, 2010, 10:48 PM	#8
regal Member Join Date: January 13, 2009 Posts: 27	Think 2oz is enough for an AK or should I get a 4 oz can ?

June 27, 2010, 03:27 PM	#10
for2nato Junior Member Join Date: February 4, 2010 Posts: 13	spray paint will scratch and rub and flake right off of duracoat. anything with a hardness rating like duracoat does not take well to top coating. even duracoat clear needs to be applied within a window of time or you will need to abrade the surface.

June 27, 2010, 03:55 PM	#11
RimfireChris Senior Member Join Date: April 27, 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 421	Has tried out the Preval disposable sprayer? And if so, how'd they work? I'd like to try my hand with Duracoat, but don't have the $ for a high end sprayer/compressor.

June 27, 2010, 03:57 PM	#12
RimfireChris Senior Member Join Date: April 27, 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 421	Oops

July 1, 2010, 03:55 PM	#13
for2nato Junior Member Join Date: February 4, 2010 Posts: 13	preval cartridge spayers are decent if the material is reduced right. if not then you will see significant orange peal in the finish. but if done right you will be happy with the end result. my suggestion is to practice the spray on a test area. like a brush out card.

July 6, 2010, 09:35 AM	#15
Old Guard Dog Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2008 Location: SE PA Posts: 100	For2nado is right. If you wait too long between coats, the Duracoat becomes too hard for a good tooth between coats. As I remember, it is 48 hrs.

July 6, 2010, 06:00 PM	#16
RoyP Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2002 Location: corning,new york Posts: 213	you could try hitting a small area with a scotch brite pad and see what it does. I have hand polished matte duracoat to a gloss but not the other way around.