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Old June 12, 2010, 09:24 PM   #1
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Citori White Hunter 3.5"

I was in Bass Pro looking at the Citori White Hunter in 3.5" that they have on sale. Regular $1,799 and on sale for $1,299 with $150.00 in shells thrown in. Man that thing feels "nice"!

Anyone have this model? If so, can you give some feedback? I have some available funds that seems to be pulling me toward it. Am buying a new Browning gun safe tomorrow and this would be great to put inside.

Thanks for any input.
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Old June 12, 2010, 09:38 PM   #2
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It's a beauty and I am sure that it will shoot twice as good as it looks.

After all; it is a Browning.

Not too bad of a deal either...
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Old June 12, 2010, 09:51 PM   #3
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The deal seems pretty decent. Not the steal of a lifetime but at least I feel a little better.
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Old June 13, 2010, 04:24 PM   #4
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I don't have that model SKS... but its similar to the Lightning model / except its a 3.5" vs 3" ..

The current Lightning model has been around a long time. I bought the same model - blued - new in 1988 for about $ 700 / mine has the old style Invector screw in chokes / the new guns all have the Invecotor Plus system. But mechanically they are really all the same / same receiver, same barrel connection, same style firing pins, etc --- and I think all the stock dimensions are the same as well ( drop at comb, drop at heel, length of pull, weight, etc )...there is a difference in the wood finish, the receiver finish, etc..

but, If it Fits you, I think $ 1299 is a pretty good deal.

Personally, over the years, I've learned more about "Fit" than I used to know - so the old Lightning ( used to just be called a Citori Field model ) just doesn't fit me very well --- so I've gone to parallel comb guns ( like the XS Skeet ) as my primary clays and field guns ....but I still keep the old field O/U around ...for the grandkids to shoot, etc .... Mine has many thousands of shells thru it ....and its still incredibly tight.

Good luck on the decision.
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Old June 13, 2010, 05:06 PM   #5
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Big Jim: I bought the safe today but still not the gun. The offer of $150.00 in free shells is over but that is not the major factor. I want this gun for quail, pheasant, rabbit, squirrel, etc. as well as skeet from time to time.

As you are aware, this is not like buying a $300-500 shotgun, although I have a $75 Stevens single shot that I love. This gun is obviously well made and I do like the 3.5" option when needed. The ability to select the different barrels is nice and makes the gun that much more versatile. This will be one that will be nice for many years to come. My SuperNova is black synthetic and has its own function but this is branching out for me. Maybe I'm trying to equal my wife's Montefeltro.

Am still debating and will probably go back tomorrow and the next day as well. I don't really know all of the drop and fit stuff but if it feels easy coming up to my shoulder and I'm looking down the barrel then it is a fit for me. I picked up a Browning A5 the other day that I absolutely could not really get my hand around comfortable. Picked up a BPS that felt right. Wish I did have your knowledge and maybe one day I will.

Crazy as it seems, now that I have the cash available it is harder to just do it. But I guess it is a good time; never know when the funds won't be there.

Thanks for your input.
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Old June 14, 2010, 11:57 AM   #6
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You're welcome / but as you know, none of this came easy to me either ...until I made friends with a couple of skeet shooters that really understood "Fit" ...and I started fine tuning all this stuff.

Honestly, I'd suggest you try and find someone at your club with a Browning Lightning model / there should be a lot of them around ....and see how it shoots for you / take it to the pattern board if you can ....and test it. Pay for the guys rounds and shells for the day / or something ... and see what you can learn. ( If you were in my area, you could shoot mine at no cost ..and see if it really fits )...

These are the Citori XS Skeet models that I shoot most of the time.
http://thefiringline.com/forums/atta...8&d=1256245028
They have a lot more adjustability than the Lightning .......but here is the Lightning model I bought new in 1988 - still a solid gun...

http://thefiringline.com/forums/atta...5&d=1270486361

I'm a Browning guy ....but I don't know that you can make a bad choice / as long as the gun fits you....that's really the key..

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Old June 15, 2010, 01:37 AM   #7
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Once you get over the sticker shock and put the gun through its paces you will think that you should have done this years ago.
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Old June 16, 2010, 09:06 PM   #8
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BigJim: Those sure look nice. I would like to try someone's out and will try to do that. The guy who gave my wife lessons has some nice guns but they are way beyond the Citori. Of course, he is seriously into the sport, is an instruction and sells firearms. Had some with weights on the barrel and the stock. Wow! I put duct tape on my old Stevens.

Olddrum: Probably so. When we bought my wife's Montefeltro ($1,100) she balked. But now she loves the gun and hasn't looked back. She has seen the versatility of the gun and that changed her mind. I bought some buckshot loads, slugs, 3" and others to show her what the gun could do. With the slugs she was hitting a 2'x2' square at 100 yds and was impressed.

Thanks agian for all of the input.
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Old June 18, 2010, 09:10 AM   #9
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You should absolutely find a similar gun to try before you spend the money.It gets to be an expensive "OOPS" pretty quickly when you buy a shotgun that you can't hit anything with,because it does not fit you.I've made that mistake and I'm sure others here have as well.I once bought a Franchi O/U $1400 that might as well have been a club in my hands.The guy that bought it shoots it very well.I also bought a used Mossberg Maverick 88 for $100 that I can shoot nearly as well as the Browing Citori that I use for skeet.Gun fit is far more important than make,model,or price!
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Old June 18, 2010, 04:15 PM   #10
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Stunned and pleasantly surprised!!!!

Wow is all I can say! I had to leave yesterday on a week long trip as two friends passed away within a day of one another. So... my wfe and daughter gave me my early Father's Day present.

Yep a brand new Citori White Hunder 3.5" with a case of shells. To say I was speechless would be an understatement. Since I drove down to Louisiana for the two funerals it is with me and I'll try it out tomorrow afternoon. Looking forward to blasting some skeet with it.

I do have a question for you shotgun gurus. The invector plus choke says it is Lead - IMP CYL / Steel - Modified. So it is both depending on whether you shoot lead or steel?
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Old June 18, 2010, 05:36 PM   #11
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Yes, you are reading the choke indications correctly.

Steel doesn't compress as much as lead. So the IC choke for lead / is considered a MOD choke if you were shooting steel.

Enjoy it ! Sorry to hear about your friends ....
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Old June 18, 2010, 10:45 PM   #12
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Thanks for the answer on the chokes BigJim. I'm learning something new each and every day. Can't wait to get it out tomorrow (I hope) and see how it shoots.

I called Browning today because their website says they honor the $150.00 in free shells through June 30th even though Bass Pro said only until June 10. However, they have an even better offer now. If you buy a Citori and send in a copy of the receipt they will send you a check for $150.00. Can't beat that.

Also, the guy at Bass Pro said the sort of wreath around the Browning deer head was in honor of military veterans and would never be done again. I asked the lady at Browning and she said, no, it was just a design they put on the gun. Anything to try and sell em I guess.

I appreciate your kind words about the loss of my friends. One was 38 and the other was 91 and there is no explaining it. Cancer took the 38 year old and a stroke the 91 year old.
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Old June 21, 2010, 11:53 AM   #13
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Sorry for the phone pics of the Citori but it is the best I can do for now. Shot it yesterday and the kick was not bad at all.
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Old June 21, 2010, 12:19 PM   #14
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Couple more pics.
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Old June 21, 2010, 12:29 PM   #15
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Nice looking gun / glad to hear you like it.

Don't drive yourself crazy - but make sure you take it to the pattern board - and see where its shooting for you -- both barrels to check the point of impact in case you need some adjustment for "Fit"....
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Old June 21, 2010, 04:01 PM   #16
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BigJim - I did shoot just one shot with both barrels yesterday. Top full choke and bottom modified at about 40-45 yards. The bottom seems to pattern obviously wider but a little lower. You are right, I will have to check when we get home and see where it is hitting. Not sure if the bottom barrel hit lower because it is lower or not. When I say lower it just patterned more shot down than the full choke. Again, that was one shot and not scientific at all.
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Old June 21, 2010, 04:49 PM   #17
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The barrels are hopefully "regulated" to hit the same spot - whether you shoot the upper or the lower...

But you need to get a big dot on the board ( like 5" ) / or use a cross hair on board ....hold dead steady ...and take 3 shots with a Full choke at about 25 yards .... so you can really see the point of impact so you know whether it shoots high or low with whatever you are wearing that day at the range.

Now remember - as you move up or back on that comb - its angled - so it means the barrels move up or down as you move your face up or back / thicker coat, etc ....so it'll change the point of impact to.

Then pattern it with an IC choke at 25 yrds / and a Mod choke at 35 yards ..... and draw a 30" circle around your center point ...and that will tell you what kind of density you have. But first thing - is to make sure it shoots where you look.

......and have some fun with the new gun ....
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Old June 21, 2010, 08:27 PM   #18
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BigJim thanks for the tips. I will take some time next week to pattern the gun in the manner you described. I've sighted in rifles but never a shotgun so I'm in new territory.

I have never had an O/U so it is something new for me, but enjoyable. Again, I only shot once from each barrel and from a standing position at at big piece of butcher paper clipped to tree brances so there could definitely be some movement somewhere.

I really appreciate all of you who have taken time to explain some of these things to me. A friend has already invited me to go pheasant hunting with him in Kansas come January and I believe the Citori will do nicely.

Will let you know how it patterns when I'm done.
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Old June 21, 2010, 09:10 PM   #19
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Your LGS may have patterning targets that will include full instructions. At one time they were give aways, but I think they're now a few dollars. I suspect the instructions will recommend you shoot from a rest, just like when setting rifle sights. They may have instructions for patterning your Skeet chokes at a reduced distance.

Congratulations on your new gun, may it serve you for many years.
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Old July 3, 2010, 10:15 PM   #20
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pattern soon

Zippy, thanks for the input. I contacted the gun club here and they have a pattern board so hopefully in the next few days I will be able to get out there and see what she shoots like.

My wife and I were going to shoot skeet on our anniversary next week but she now has to leave town with my daughter for a week. Guess I will go alone.

Will try and post some pictures of how it patterns.
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Old July 5, 2010, 09:49 PM   #21
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Patterned today

I was able to take the Citori out to the range today and shoot these patterns. They are as follows:

#1 Full choke @ 25 yards, upper barrel




#2 Full choke @ 25 yards, lower barrel




#3 Improved Cylinder choke @ 25 yards, upper barrel




#4 Modified choke @ 35 yards, lower barrel



Full choke patterns were shot with Remington Nitro Gold and the other two with Winchester AA super sport. All targets represent three shots on target and shot size was 7 1/2 for all.

Also, ran some low recoil/low noise through it and thought I was shooting a pellet gun. Wow that stuff is light.

I shot the patterns from a bench rest so they should be pretty accurate. After doing this, which took a while with other shooters at the range, , I shot about 50 more rounds just for the fun of it. The gun handled nicely and seems to come up to my shoulder very easily. I was off hand hitting different object at different distances and now I'm excited about taking it to the skeet range later in the week.

I love my Benelli Super Nova but the Citori is much more fluid handling.

Thanks to all for your input and advice.
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Old July 5, 2010, 09:50 PM   #22
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Thanks Wilkenstein! That was easy.
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Old July 5, 2010, 09:58 PM   #23
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You can upload the pictures with "manage attachments" tab under additional options when you reply to a post. You can also upload them to picasa or photobucket and copy the image url and paste it between IMG tags.


Citoris have fantastic resale, so even if you don't like it in the long run you wont lose too much money on it. I'm still considering one, but my auto beretta keeps on chugging along.
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Old July 8, 2010, 12:21 AM   #24
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Range report

Wow! Took the Citori to the skeet/trap range today and had a blast. I will say that skeet seems easier than trap at this point.

I was hitting most of the skeet clays and doubles were no problem. In fact I got both with one lucky shot to start. Should have stopped there.

This was my first time to really put the gun in action and it handles smoothly and easily. I believe with a little more practice the muscle memory will get even better. So for the moment, I am in love with the Citori.
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Old July 8, 2010, 11:31 AM   #25
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Glad to hear you like the new gun ....especially after all the issues with the Stoeger semi-auto ...

Not to be a smart ass....but a point of order in Skeet ....if you hit both birds on a pair with one shot / you have to shoot the pair again ! Skeet isn't scored like sporting clays - where that would be a dead pair.

In Skeet - if you hit both with one shot --- it means you were way late on the first bird ..and you screwed up ! Its the squad referee's call - but usually it means the first bird in the pair is established as Dead - but you get no credit for killing the 2nd bird. You have to shoot another pair ( making an honest attempt at the first bird again - even if you miss it) and kill the 2nd bird - and then its a dead pair. The first bird was established Dead on your first pair / the 2nd bird was dead on the 2nd pair .....

Sometimes pieces from the first bird will break the 2nd bird too ...same thing, you have to shoot the pair again ( as Proof !! ) ....

If you don't have an official rule book for Skeet, Sporting Clays and 5 Stand --- pick one up / or borrow one from a registered shooter ( they send out new books every year ) and the rules change a little. You can also find them online...
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