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Old June 1, 2010, 11:54 AM   #1
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Obama Serves 14-State Governors with Warnings of Arrest

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Obama Serves 14-State Governors with Warnings of Arrest
By Dr. Lyle J. Rapacki Wednesday, May 26, 2010

Barack Hussein Obama had served 14-State Governors in the United States,
National Security Letters (NSLs) warning that the Governor’s actions in
attempting to form “State Defense Forces” needs to be halted
“immediately” or they will face arrest for the crime of treason. The
employment of NSLs was authorized by the Patriot Act introduced by
George W. Bush. Contained within the section related to these letters,
it is forbidden for anyone receiving a NSL warning to even acknowledge
the existence of said communication.

Obama is angered by the several State Governors who have reestablished
“State Defense Forces.” These forces are described as: “State Defense
Forces (also known as State Guards, State Military Reserves, State
Militias) in the United States are military units that operate under the
sole authority of a state government; they are not regulated by the
National Guard Bureau nor are they part of the Army National Guard of
the United States. State Defense Forces are authorized by state and
federal law and are under the command of the governor of each state.
State Defense Forces are distinct from their state’s National Guard in
that they cannot become federal entities.”

Mr. Obama is fearful of these State Defense Forces, in that he does not
have control of said forces, and with the U.S. Military stretched to
near breaking from multiple deployments and theatre actions in Iraq and
Afghanistan, these State military forces would be under the direct
command and authority of the Governors in which states have said forces.
In essence, the Governors would have “de facto control” of the United
States.

The two Governors leading this move are: Tim Pawlenty, Governor of
Minnesota; and Rick Perry, Governor of Texas. Both of these State
Governors stated they have: “…deep fear the President is destroying
their Nation.” Governor Pawlenty’s fear of Obama is that since Obama
took office he has appeased America’s enemies and has shunned some of
America’s strongest allies, especially Israel. Governor Perry has
declared that Obama is punishing his State of Texas by dumping
tens-of-thousands of illegal Mexican immigrants into the cities and
small towns of Texas. Governor Perry further recently stated: “If
Barack Obama’s Washington doesn’t stop being so oppressive, Texans might
feel compelled to renounce their American citizenry and secede from the
union.”

Obama fearing a revolution against him by the states, has moved swiftly
by nationalizing nearly all National Guard Forces in multiple states;
Georgia, Alabama, Kansas, Minnesota, Tennessee, Virginia, Louisiana,
South Carolina – to name a few. The Governors of the Great States of
Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and
Virginia still have under their Command-and-Control the State Defense
Forces to go against U.S. Federal forces should the need arise. Also
important to note: There are NO U.S. laws prohibiting National Guard
troops from also joining their State’s Defense Forces. This dilemma
occurred during the Civil War with many “citizen soldiers” choosing to
serve their states instead of the Federal Government.

This is a fluid and still developing situation that warrants close
attention.
I have the following questions:

1. Can a federalized NG soldier legally defect to join a State Guard?

2. Can anyone cite the sections of the Patriot Act that make the dissemination of NSL's to the public by these governors, illegal?

3. Can anyone present a copy of one of these NSL's, or at least a verbatim of the text, so we can have some veracity of the claims here that Obama indeed threatened Governors with Treason for enrolling the State Guards when our military is stretched out around the world and domestic security is thin?

4. Has this been debunked before? Snopes has nothing on it.

ETA: Pre-empting the "non-firearms related" question, just in case:

State Guard versus National Guard. NG obviously has aircraft, armor, and significant federal funding. SG, just like any state/municipal police department, can get automatic weapons. I've yet to hear of a State Guard actually mustering to train, however. I would expect these State Guards to be nothing more than a redundant list of police officers and such, rather than actual lay folks with a penchant for 10th amendment support. More of a political tool that looks bigger than it actually is.

Anyone from one of these states able to clarify the "State Guard" role?

AZ has both a State Guard and we also have the Arizona Rangers... The State Guard still has a commander but has no enlisted men to my knowledge. The Arizona Rangers were disbanded in the early part of the 20th century and are now basically a cowboy/lawman support group of volunteers.

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Old June 1, 2010, 12:10 PM   #2
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I can't answer any of your questions, but I would like to applaud you for your reaction of skepticism. Too often in the gun community people read something like that and immediately take it as an undeniable truth. Then they write emails to their friends asking them to forward it. Then we have the UN-Treaty debacle. Again, I apologize for being of no help. Just wanted to say thanks for not forwarding that to all your buddies as fact without verifying it first.
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Old June 1, 2010, 12:39 PM   #3
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4. Has this been debunked before? Snopes has nothing on it.
From Perpich vs. Department of Defense, 496 U.S. 334 (1990):

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Moreover, 352*352 Congress has provided by statute that in addition to its National Guard, a State may provide and maintain at its own expense a defense force that is exempt from being drafted into the Armed Forces of the United States. See 32 U. S. C. § 109(c). As long as that provision remains in effect, there is no basis for an argument that the federal statutory scheme deprives Minnesota of any constitutional entitlement to a separate militia of its own.[25]
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Old June 1, 2010, 12:52 PM   #4
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Well, mikejonestkd has informed me via PM that Lyle Rapacki's credentials are certainly to be questioned.

Evidently he has either invented non-existent schools he supposedly attended to get various masters or doctoral degrees, or claimed to have served the various States in ways that he actually hasn't.

The AZ State Supreme Court even gave him an injunction to stop claiming he as a faculty member of the Supreme Court.

http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.htm...&c=whs&id=4800

I'm dumping an entire box of Morton's Salt in with this one... but I'm still interested in hearing the facts of the matter rather than the facts of the writer's background.
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Old June 1, 2010, 01:32 PM   #5
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If you go to the web page containing this article, the link to the news source that they are allegedly quoting just produces a blank page.

So this report does look totally bogus to me.

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Old June 1, 2010, 02:08 PM   #6
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The States have had the authority to raise and maintain a militia since before the Constitution was chartered, and has had it all along. And the US Constitution does not give the US Government authority to "authorize" states to form militias with a law, the Constitution protects the State's power to do so.

Our current Army and National Guard are in violation of the Constitution, where as a standing army is a threat to the People.

If this news report is true about Obama serving warning to Governors of the States, we all need to take heed and prepare for a federal government turning against the people and the states.
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Old June 1, 2010, 05:32 PM   #7
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I'm dumping an entire box of Morton's Salt in with this one... but I'm still interested in hearing the facts of the matter rather than the facts of the writer's background.
I'm with you.

What's sad is that there is not enough trust in our federal officials for us to debunk this on its face. Who trusts the Obama administration enough to say, "There's no way this can be true!". Certainly not I. However, I will wait patiently and read what I can find about this before I cast a "guilty as charged" vote on the Obama administration in regards to the NSL's .
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If you are going to post something that is most likely to be a fraud or nuts - want to check it out before posting it?

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