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Old May 11, 2010, 08:11 AM   #1
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Need help with a Mossberg Model M

Hey guys, I recently was given a very old rifle that belonged to my Grandfather. My grandma found it in a closet somewhere that had escaped her for like 10 years since he died. Anyway, it is a .22 rimfire pump action rifle with an octagonal barrel. The stamp on it says "Premier". A little online research turns out that this rifle was made from 1928-1931 by Mossberg for Montgomery Ward. It is in fact a Mossberg Model M.

Now, the first thing I noticed upon inspection was that this rifle is missing parts, mainly the bolt and rear sight. Upon reviewing an exploded parts chart I found for this rifle, I am missing quite a few more parts even.

What I would like is to find someone who owns one of these that is complete, and get them to take some detailed pictures for me of all the parts and how they go together so I know exactly what I have and what I still need. The exploded parts chart is very small and hard to tell what is what with some parts.

Is there anyone out there who can help me out?
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Old May 12, 2010, 02:17 PM   #2
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Premier Pump 22

I have a Premier pump 22 that belonged to my great grandfather. I recently purchased another one and planned on switching parts from the recently purchased one to the old one. Much to my surprise, I discovered the parts may look the same but they are not the same. Some of the screws have different threads and some of the parts have different sizes. The magazines tubes, for exampe, have different lengths and diameters. I also purchased a barrel that was marked Premier and it appeared to be exactly the same as the other two, but it turned out to have a different diameter and different sized-grooves for the magazine mounts than the other two!! The rifles do appears to be faithful reproductions of the Mossberg Model M, but looks are deceiving. So, be cautious when you start puchasing parts.
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Old May 12, 2010, 02:23 PM   #3
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Parts for Premier Pump

Here's the website with an exploded image of all the parts for the Mossberg Model M.
http://www.box54.com/exploded-k-m.jpg
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Old May 13, 2010, 08:51 AM   #4
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Thanks for the info. I have already found and printed that exploded view, the problem is that it is hard to see what some of the parts look like. Also, it does not tell what comprises the "assembly" such as the "complete bolt assembly". I know I'm missing the bolt, but I don't know what goes in the assembly exactly.

Could you take pictures of your rifle's parts with enough detail for me to be able to figure out exactly which parts and screws I need to get?
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Old May 13, 2010, 11:46 AM   #5
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Yes, I can take the photos, but I can't guarantee the quality. We are traveling now, so it will be a while before I can take the photos. My Premier pump has the old bolt, not the new one, but in my search for parts I located and bought a new bolt (minus firing pin). I'll send a photo of that, also.
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Old May 23, 2010, 03:49 PM   #6
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Photos

I have attached three photos.
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Old May 23, 2010, 03:51 PM   #7
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Old Style Bolt

I have attached three more photos, this time of the old style bolt. Note that this one has a firing pin.
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Old May 23, 2010, 03:53 PM   #8
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Premier Pump

These are the internal workings of the rifle.
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Old May 23, 2010, 03:56 PM   #9
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New Style Bolt

This new style bolt does not have a firing pin. I have other photos if you need them.
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Old May 23, 2010, 04:01 PM   #10
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Firing Pin in Old Style

I hope this one is clear.
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