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Old May 7, 2010, 02:41 PM   #1
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HSC mauser compared to other 380's

How does hsc mauser imported by interarms compare with other 380's like bersa in same price range.
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Old May 7, 2010, 03:00 PM   #2
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My uncle bought one for my aunt some time ago. He said that she quit carring it because she thought it was too heavy for carry. Other than that, my uncle liked it. Thats all I know..... I have 0 personal experience other than seeing pictures.
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Old May 7, 2010, 07:28 PM   #3
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There's no comparison between the Mauser and the Bersa as far as quality goes.

The Mauser was one of the "big three" pre-war German pocket autos that set the standard for the next 60 years.
The Walther PP series has been the most successful, the Sauer 38h never survived WWII, and the Mauser HSc had some success after the war.
It was once described as an Art Deco pistol for the attractive design.

Personally, I think the Walther grip feels better.
The Mauser has a rather odd slide stop design. When the slide is pulled back with an empty magazine or NO magazine it locks open.
It can only be closed by inserting a loaded or UNLOADED magazine, which causes the slide to automatically close.
The safety is a good one in which the firing pin is lifted entirely out of the hammers path, but the hammer doesn't de-cock like the Walther.

There's some question as to whether the post-war Mauser was actually made in German, or in Spain.
The Walther PP series were almost all produced in France, shipped to Germany, proof fired and stamped "Made In Germany".
In Europe, the country in which a gun is officially proof tested is considered to be the country of manufacture.

There's some discussion as to whether Mauser had the guns made in Spain and proofed in Germany in the same way.
Later, Mauser either sold or licensed the design to the Spanish Gamba company who first made exact copies of the HSc, then modified it to a long gripped, double stack magazine design that ruined the original concept of a pocket sized auto.

For what it's worth, one famous gunsmith once said the Mauser HSc was a "2000 round gun". He said that after about that many rounds, the frame would develop cracks in front of the slide rails.
There may be something to this, because I'd seen several war time and one high round count post-war version with frame cracks in that area.

Whatever, the Mauser HSc was a fine quality pistol with some excellent features.
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Old May 7, 2010, 09:27 PM   #4
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I have had two of them over the years, in .32 ACP. IMHO, they are among the finest pistols of the type ever made. Although eclipsed nowadays by the truly tiny .32s and .380s from Kel-Tec, Ruger, et al, the design is one of the safest and most reliable made. The safety blocks the firing pin, rotates it up out of reach of the hammer, and inserts a steel block between the hammer and firing pin! It is one of the few safety designs that is truly safe when engaged.

As noted previously, engaging the safety doesn't drop the hammer, but you can do so in complete safety by merely pulling the trigger -- something that takes a bit of getting used to! Or, you can leave the weapon "cocked and locked" and have the light single-action trigger-pull by disengaging the safety.

For carry nowadays, I have my Kel-Tec PF-9, which is actually a bit smaller than the HSc, and is a full-power 9mm, but I wouldn't turn down the opportunity to own another one in either .32 or .380, if one were to present itself to me at the right price!
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Old May 7, 2010, 09:50 PM   #5
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The Mauser & Walther were stds for decades. The HSc is built like a "brick" @#*t House.....All steel---All business. Mine, btw, is the .32acp...

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Old May 8, 2010, 07:44 PM   #6
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My HSc (hammer, self-cocking) Mauser pistol was a jammamatic, even with ball ammunition. But my experience is limited to only the one speciman. I really wanted to like it in terms of its fine workmanship and good handling properties but its unreliable nature precluded it from self-defense duties-the very reason I acquired it in the first place.
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Old May 9, 2010, 04:34 AM   #7
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The nicest 380 I've had is the Remington M51 unfortunately I no longer have it ! It' has the lightest recoil of all of them due to the delayed blowback action. It's also very slim and fits the hand of most shooters very well. Since Remington is back in the pistol business maybe they should make the M51 again.
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Old May 9, 2010, 06:48 AM   #8
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There was some post war production of these though I forget the exact decade. Guns and Ammo ran a back to back 5000 round torture test of the Hsc and PPK. Somewhere late in the shooting, the hsc threw its extractor but the guy kept on functioning anyway.
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Old May 11, 2010, 05:11 PM   #9
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I was looking at on that was nickel plated imported by inter arms but when I looked in bluebook it doesn't show on nickel plated or the value.
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Old May 11, 2010, 06:18 PM   #10
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They were available in blued or nickel.
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Old May 11, 2010, 06:36 PM   #11
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I was looking at on that was nickel plated imported by inter arms but when I looked in bluebook it doesn't show on nickel plated or the value.
I paid $585 for a nearly new one 3 years ago.
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Old May 12, 2010, 05:50 PM   #12
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Thanks guys for all the info,made deal bought hsc from orgingal owner he says only fired twice about 40 rounds.nickle plated $350.00
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Old May 13, 2010, 05:31 AM   #13
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There's some question as to whether the post-war Mauser was actually made in German, or in Spain.

More correctly, the question would be Germany or Italy, not Spain. Renato Gamba, the manufacturer of the HSc Super pistols, is an Italian company founded in 1625.

In addition, many of the features of the HSc pistol were carried over to the Heckler & Koch HK4 pistol, with many of the same faults.
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