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Old April 22, 2010, 12:23 AM   #1
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black powder movies

my favorite has to beThe outlaw Josie wells,then pale rider,the patriot [mel gibson]jerimia johnson,the mountain men,...................any other black powder movies you can think of?................................................................................................................................................................
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Old April 22, 2010, 02:59 AM   #2
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Crazy Black Powder Movies

There's always the old, black and white, and even silent comedies, and then the pirate movies.

I like the old ones where they are lugging a keg of Holy Black ... laying out a trail of powder ... and then the Hero takes a HUGE tug off his cigar and sticks it into the powder trail to light it ... THEN sticks the cigar back in his mouth and you KNOW that actor is gonna puff on that thing with black still burning on it!

And the comedies of course where the idiot gets blowed up by a keg of black and his hair is all blown up and black makeup on the face ... three stooges.

Pirate movies with plenty of flintlock action are pretty cool.
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Old April 22, 2010, 04:04 AM   #3
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This morning TCM ran Robert Taylor in Westward the Women. In the short they ran about the making of the film, they claimed the studio had gone out of its way to be period correct.

Set in 1851, it featured a time traveling cowboy (Taylor) who has a nickel plated SAA and cartridge loops on his holster belt. Humm… on second thought, I think all the cowboys were time travelers, 'cause they were similarly rigged.
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Old April 22, 2010, 04:40 AM   #4
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Guys,

Does "Open Range" fit?
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Old April 22, 2010, 07:49 AM   #5
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I think they did a good job with "Open range". Lot of smoke from everything, showed them reloading, dropping the hammer on empty chambers in the heat of battle. Darn good movie.
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Old April 22, 2010, 09:27 AM   #6
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My all time favorite has to be "The Outlaw Josey Wales".
"Lonesome Dove" was a good one too!
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Old April 22, 2010, 09:39 AM   #7
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The Searchers.

Winchester '73.

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.

True Grit.

Rooster Cogburn.

The Sons of Katie Elder.

Pale Rider.

Breakhart Pass

And, an honorable mention to Blazing Saddles.
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Old April 22, 2010, 11:17 AM   #8
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I think that my favorite black powder movie was "The Patriot" (2000) starring Mel Gibson which takes place during the Revolutionary War.
It was nominated for 3 Academy Awards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Patriot_(2000_film)

The whole movie can be seen on Youtube in 16 segments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLhKTRYbtms


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Old April 22, 2010, 12:25 PM   #9
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It may not fit the genre....

....but I like Grey Fox. Closer to the turn of the 20th century and not overly focused on the handguns in use.

I still like it.
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Old April 22, 2010, 12:37 PM   #10
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Barry Lyndon

Whut? Us Brits had muskets too.
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Old April 22, 2010, 12:46 PM   #11
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Last of the Mohicans, with Daniel Day Lewis. It's probably my favorite black-powder movie. Hawkeye's gun is about 50 years too late for the movie, but seeing as how James F. Cooper's books were even worse for anachronisms, I suppose Michael Mann can be forgiven for his choice of rifle.
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Old April 22, 2010, 12:50 PM   #12
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Going back a bit but how about these great ones;

The Kentuckian, with Burte Lancaster.

The Mountain Men , with Charlton Heston.


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Old April 22, 2010, 03:29 PM   #13
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3:10 to Yuma...mmm...Schofields....and the under-appreciated Remington 1875.

I think that there may have been a rifle or two that were a little anachronistic if we're to believe that Evans was a Civil War veteran, but nonetheless, I thought it was pretty well done. Besides, I'm a sucker for Elmore Leonard stories...detective westerns!
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Old April 22, 2010, 03:48 PM   #14
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Quigley Down Under was pretty good. I have all the lines in Jerimiah Johnson memorized. Gettysburg and Gods And Generals were worth the price of the DVDs. Also Unforgiven with Clint Eastwood.
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Old April 22, 2010, 11:57 PM   #15
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Old April 23, 2010, 12:12 AM   #16
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how can you miss the biggest, most awsome, pure black smoke movie of 'em all: gettysburg ! !

remember that cannon scene that goes on for about 5 minutes ? in fact there's nothing but 'smokers' from the first calvary skirmish right through 'till the last day, last charge.

i actually dubbed the cannon scene to a cd just so i could skip to it.

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Old April 23, 2010, 05:18 AM   #17
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I have all the lines in Jerimiah Johnson memorized.
"Deer don't know how many feet a horse has"
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Old April 23, 2010, 07:43 AM   #18
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LeMat

To me, the best part is when Colonel Chamberlain loads his revolver.

I wonder a couple of things when I watch that sequence.

1. He emptied the revolver into the Confederate formation as it came up the hill and I think that is the first time we witness him firing the revolver in the flick. I wonder if the actual Chamberlain had ever fired the revolver before that time.

2. When Chamberlain was issued his revolver, was that the first time he ever held such a weapon? (I think it was an 1860 Colt but the details are not perfect in my DVD.)

3. We know a little bit about his prewar life and can infer some things about his social status and day to day activity. From a statistical standpoint, what experience might we assume he had with firearms in his antebellum life?

4. Chamberlain did not have the unit for much time before the battle. I wonder where "small arms familiarization for infantry colonels" was on his priority list.

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Old April 23, 2010, 09:47 AM   #19
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Westerns:
The Shootist
Unforgiven ("You cowardly cur! You just shot an unarmed man!" "He should'a armed himself if he's gonna decorate his porch with my friend.")
Civil War:
Gettysburg (in spite of the "big hair" beards)
The General (Buster Keaton silent. The troops are using Trapdoor Springfields with BP blanks for plenty of smoke.)
American Revolution:
The Patriot
F&I:
Last of the Mohicans (the Daniel Day Lewis version)
Northwest Passage (Spencer Tracy as Robert Rogers)
Fur Trade era:
The Mountain Men
Jeremiah Johnson ("Injuns do this to you?" "T'wernt Mormons! ...Chief by the name of Mad Wolf; nice fella, don't talk a h- of a lot.")
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Old April 23, 2010, 01:56 PM   #20
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Quote:
"Deer don't know how many feet a horse has"
Not to be a stickler, but he actually said "Elk don't know how many feet a horse have". Check it out (I memorized it too).

Culpepper Cattle Company was one of my all time favorites. Probably not smokey enough or proper period guns in all places though. I'll have to watch again.

Open Range was very good except for people flying 20 feet through the air after getting hit with a .36, .44, or a 12 gauge. Kevin fanning 9 rapid shots from his revolver kind of grated on me a bit too. The story and the smoke were outstanding!

Quote:
Unforgiven ("You cowardly cur! You just shot an unarmed man!" "He should'a armed himself if he's gonna decorate his porch with my friend.")
no, no, no...!!! Arrrggghh (ok, I am a stickler).

"You, sir, are a cowardly son of a b--ch! You just shot an unarmed man!"
"He should have armed himselft if he's gonna decorate his saloon with my friend."
"You must be William Munny out of Missouri, killer of women and children"
"That's right, I've killed women and children and just about every that ever walked or crawled at one time or another, and I'm here to kill you little Bill, for what you did to Ned".
"OK boys, he's got one barrel left. When he's used that, shoot him down like the mangy scoundrel he is".
(click)
"MISFIRE, SHOOT THE SON OF A ...."

Why do I fill my head with this stuff??? I need help..!
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Old April 23, 2010, 10:47 PM   #21
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Thanks for the correction, Noelf2. You are, of course, correct.

How about one of the most famous mis-quotes:
"We don't need no stinking badges!"
From Treasure of the Sierra Madre

IIRC (I'm not so sure any more!), the quote actually goes:
"Badges? We got no badges...I don't have to show you no stinking badges!"

How'd I do?
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Old April 23, 2010, 11:01 PM   #22
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Wow, seems we all have the same favorite movies. Wanna just buy the DVD's in bulk so we can save a few bucks?
Love the scene in Patriot where he's casting musket balls from toy soldiers.
Read awhile back toy soldiers were made from lead in those days, not in China, either!
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Old April 23, 2010, 11:31 PM   #23
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MOVIE TIME!

<--- is watching "The Patriot" with Mel Gibson ... if you don't hear from me anymore you'll know I overdosed on fresh cooked walnut brownies!
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Old April 26, 2010, 08:33 AM   #24
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Smoke movies

HOW ABOUT YOUNG GUNS ONE AND 2 1873 COLT SMOKE,AND TRUE STORY PARTLY.
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