bullet proof for cheap

monkeywithagun · February 20, 2010, 02:39 PM

is there any vests out there that will stop a shot gun slug at close range? like within 6 feet? and if so how much would they cost, and is it possible to make my own. any comments are welcome. if you think im crazy your not the only one.

Powderman · February 20, 2010, 02:52 PM

Why?

hickstick_10 · February 20, 2010, 03:26 PM

double post.

hickstick_10 · February 20, 2010, 03:27 PM

id wager youd suffer some serious internal injuries, seperated sternum and busted ribs, even if the slug didnt go through. So I really doubt youd be in any shape to double fist your 2 desert eagles to get out of the mess

This sounds like a SShootemindahead question

Why?

monkeywithagun · February 20, 2010, 05:49 PM

idk y, i was just curious. whats the most powerful gun a standard vest can stop without causing serious injury to the wearer? if a shot gun is too powerful

hickstick_10 · February 20, 2010, 06:07 PM

consult the manufactures of body armor, vests and trauma plates.

Maromero · February 20, 2010, 06:12 PM

Farberware came out with a new product.

m.p.driver · February 20, 2010, 06:20 PM

While in the Army they showed us a video of someone from Second Chance wearing one of their vests,while another gentleman with a FAL in .308 shoot him from almost muzzle contact away.Took a step back but that was about it,had a red mark(probably soon to turn purple)about the size of a tea cup.I can only guess that he had two trauma plates in front.

birdshot · February 20, 2010, 06:25 PM

i saw a buddy of mines vest after he was shot in the chest at about one foot with a load of bird shot. the vest stopped every thing but it lost it's new look. he did not have any broken bones but got a lot of bruising out of the deal.

BGutzman · February 20, 2010, 07:13 PM

Call 1 800 USA Army,

Tell them your calling about a 19 Kilo job. (M1A1/M1A2 Tanker)

This is about as bullet proof as it gets.

drail · February 21, 2010, 11:52 AM

Even if you stop the slug you are still absorbing the energy and will probably go down. That's a LOT of energy.

Vt.birdhunter · February 21, 2010, 12:35 PM

http://www.bulletproofme.com/Body_Ar...ml#Stand-Alone

Multi hit, stand alone ceramic plates are about the toughest thing commonly available. Rated to stop .308 and .30-06 armor piercing at about 2,850 fps.

A one ounce lead slug is a heck of a lot of mass to try to walk away from though, not sure how level IV plates are rated against slugs.

jgcoastie · February 22, 2010, 10:51 AM

I know from experience that our vests (Point Blank IIIA) will stop the following:

5 - 5.56x45mm
1- 12ga slug
2- 12ga 00Buck
10- .40S&W 180gr

We had a vest that was past its expiration date, so we took it to the range for a bit of "testing". Vest was hung on a rail at the end of the range, not placed over a semi-solid object. All shots were fired at a distance of 5 feet. Shots were fired, in that order, into a single vest, no trauma plates.

Now, all that being said, that's a heckuva lot of kinetic energy. Your insides would likely be turned to jelly. Regardless, I would not want to be shot with anything, vest or not.

brickeyee · February 22, 2010, 11:04 AM

Plates were developed to spread the blow from higher power rounds across a large enough area to avoid blunt force trauma.

Enough layers of Kevlar would stop just about anything.

The blunt force trauma that results is likely to stop the person.

leadcounsel · February 22, 2010, 11:23 AM

Ceramic plates are designed to stop large caliber rifle rounds (7.62x54r, .3006, .308). I've seen videos of Soldiers/Marines shot by snipers and the Soldiers were mildy wounded. They should handle a 12 gauge slug.

monkeywithagun · February 24, 2010, 02:51 PM

thganks guys, i know you probly think im a nutjob. i just like to know my options incase the world turns into a police state, or its bak to looting and mob mentality. so uh how much is a decent vest? can i get one for around 300?

**Brian Pfleuger** · February 24, 2010, 02:55 PM

Quote:

so uh how much is a decent vest? can i get one for around 300?

You missed a zero there.....

$3000.00 would be reasonable.

Actually, it depends on the level of the vest.... anywhere from $400 to $3000+

eBay would probably be your best bet. Frankly, as a civilian you're wasting your money, but it's your money.

monkeywithagun · February 24, 2010, 03:01 PM

dang thats expensive, well protecting your life is worth it. ive seen some on ebay for cheaper, but idk how well of a protective vest they are cas u cant try them on b4 u buy.

February 20, 2010, 02:39 PM	#1
monkeywithagun Junior Member Join Date: February 20, 2010 Posts: 12	bullet proof for cheap is there any vests out there that will stop a shot gun slug at close range? like within 6 feet? and if so how much would they cost, and is it possible to make my own. any comments are welcome. if you think im crazy your not the only one.

February 20, 2010, 02:52 PM	#2
Powderman Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 2,029	Why? __________________ Hiding in plain sight...

February 20, 2010, 07:13 PM	#10
BGutzman Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2009 Location: Frozen Tundra Posts: 2,411	Call 1 800 USA Army, Tell them your calling about a 19 Kilo job. (M1A1/M1A2 Tanker) This is about as bullet proof as it gets. __________________ Molon Labe

February 22, 2010, 10:51 AM	#13
jgcoastie Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Location: Now: Michigan, Previously: Alaska, California, North Carolina, Mississippi Posts: 2,093	I know from experience that our vests (Point Blank IIIA) will stop the following: 5 - 5.56x45mm 1- 12ga slug 2- 12ga 00Buck 10- .40S&W 180gr We had a vest that was past its expiration date, so we took it to the range for a bit of "testing". Vest was hung on a rail at the end of the range, not placed over a semi-solid object. All shots were fired at a distance of 5 feet. Shots were fired, in that order, into a single vest, no trauma plates. Now, all that being said, that's a heckuva lot of kinetic energy. Your insides would likely be turned to jelly. Regardless, I would not want to be shot with anything, vest or not. __________________ "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them." -Richard Henry Lee, Virginia delegate to the Continental Congress, initiator of the Declaration of Independence, and member of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights.

February 20, 2010, 03:26 PM	#3
hickstick_10 Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2009 Posts: 477	double post.

February 20, 2010, 03:27 PM	#4
hickstick_10 Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2009 Posts: 477	id wager youd suffer some serious internal injuries, seperated sternum and busted ribs, even if the slug didnt go through. So I really doubt youd be in any shape to double fist your 2 desert eagles to get out of the mess This sounds like a SShootemindahead question Why?

February 20, 2010, 05:49 PM	#5
monkeywithagun Junior Member Join Date: February 20, 2010 Posts: 12	idk y, i was just curious. whats the most powerful gun a standard vest can stop without causing serious injury to the wearer? if a shot gun is too powerful

February 20, 2010, 06:07 PM	#6
hickstick_10 Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2009 Posts: 477	consult the manufactures of body armor, vests and trauma plates.

February 20, 2010, 06:12 PM	#7
Maromero Junior member Join Date: January 21, 2009 Location: Outside the continental U.S. Posts: 752	Farberware came out with a new product.

February 20, 2010, 06:20 PM	#8
m.p.driver Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 540	While in the Army they showed us a video of someone from Second Chance wearing one of their vests,while another gentleman with a FAL in .308 shoot him from almost muzzle contact away.Took a step back but that was about it,had a red mark(probably soon to turn purple)about the size of a tea cup.I can only guess that he had two trauma plates in front.

February 20, 2010, 06:25 PM	#9
birdshot Senior Member Join Date: January 17, 2008 Location: north platte nebraska Posts: 295	i saw a buddy of mines vest after he was shot in the chest at about one foot with a load of bird shot. the vest stopped every thing but it lost it's new look. he did not have any broken bones but got a lot of bruising out of the deal.

February 21, 2010, 11:52 AM	#11
drail Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2008 Posts: 3,150	Even if you stop the slug you are still absorbing the energy and will probably go down. That's a LOT of energy.

February 21, 2010, 12:35 PM	#12
Vt.birdhunter Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2009 Posts: 480	http://www.bulletproofme.com/Body_Ar...ml#Stand-Alone Multi hit, stand alone ceramic plates are about the toughest thing commonly available. Rated to stop .308 and .30-06 armor piercing at about 2,850 fps. A one ounce lead slug is a heck of a lot of mass to try to walk away from though, not sure how level IV plates are rated against slugs.

February 22, 2010, 11:04 AM	#14
brickeyee Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2004 Posts: 3,342	Plates were developed to spread the blow from higher power rounds across a large enough area to avoid blunt force trauma. Enough layers of Kevlar would stop just about anything. The blunt force trauma that results is likely to stop the person.

February 22, 2010, 11:23 AM	#15
leadcounsel Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2005 Location: Army, moving often! Posts: 1,321	Ceramic plates are designed to stop large caliber rifle rounds (7.62x54r, .3006, .308). I've seen videos of Soldiers/Marines shot by snipers and the Soldiers were mildy wounded. They should handle a 12 gauge slug.

February 24, 2010, 02:51 PM	#16
monkeywithagun Junior Member Join Date: February 20, 2010 Posts: 12	thganks guys, i know you probly think im a nutjob. i just like to know my options incase the world turns into a police state, or its bak to looting and mob mentality. so uh how much is a decent vest? can i get one for around 300?

February 24, 2010, 03:01 PM	#18
monkeywithagun Junior Member Join Date: February 20, 2010 Posts: 12	dang thats expensive, well protecting your life is worth it. ive seen some on ebay for cheaper, but idk how well of a protective vest they are cas u cant try them on b4 u buy.