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Old December 21, 2009, 03:13 PM   #1
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Extended slide release for 9mm 1911

Does anyone know who makes or can make a extended slide release for a sti or kimber 9mm.I have tried everyone I know off and they all make them for 45 but not 9mm.Tried ed brown,wilson combat,egw,pachmayr,nighthawk,massen.really need more thumb area
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Old December 21, 2009, 03:31 PM   #2
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Slide stops are not caliber specific. IE: I have a regular Ed Brown Slide stop on my custom .40 1911 i'm building
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Old December 21, 2009, 04:06 PM   #3
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Just say no to an extended slide release. Been there, done that. I've used them and tossed them in the trash. First time you accidentally lock your slide while firing, you will to.
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Old December 21, 2009, 05:10 PM   #4
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Extended slide stops cause far more problems on most guns than they solve. You are better off using your off hand to trip the stop or learning to quickly shift your grip to reach it with your shooting hand thumb. After selling and installing these thing for years on customer's guns and watching them blow match stages because their slide locked back on a magazine that was not empty all of my guns wear standard slide stops. Actually, all of my slide stops have been modified so they will never lock back on empty. I learned long ago that shooting the gun to slide lock is not a good habit to get into. I count to six and reload. This method works for my revolvers and my .45 1911s.
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Old December 21, 2009, 05:13 PM   #5
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If they are not caliber specific why did ed brown tell me one for 45 will not work on 9mm.wilson combat also has diffrent part numbers for 9mm and 45 regular slide stops.I woul really like to have more thumb area as I said before I don't really need extended slide stop just a bigger pad.
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Old December 21, 2009, 05:39 PM   #6
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Slide stops are not caliber specific.
Yes, they most certainly are.

A .38 Super/9mm slide stop will protrude far enough into the frame that the nose of a .45 bullet will activate it; conversely, a .45 slide stop may not protrude far enough for the follower of a .38 Super/9mm mag to engage.

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Extended slide stops cause far more problems on most guns than they solve.
This.

"Extended" slide stops are too easy to accidentally engage with the thumb of the support hand while firing. Further, their increased mass sometimes causes them to be jiggled into the "on" position under recoil if the slide stop plunger does not have sufficiently positive engagement. I avoid them like the plague, myself.
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Old December 22, 2009, 10:43 AM   #7
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OK i am convinced not to buy a extended slide release.But I still would like more thumb srea like ed browns made for 45.,can you tig weld on thumb area and then file it to fit? does anyone do that?You can not slingshot my sti like my kimber so you need to push down on slide release which is a real bear.If you alter slide release not lock up when empty how does that work under normal conditions and do you just grind of locking tab?
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Old December 22, 2009, 10:52 AM   #8
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You can not slingshot my sti like my kimber so you need to push down on slide release which is a real bear
Are you using a shock buff? Which STI? My 9mm Trojan sling shots just fine.
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Old December 22, 2009, 11:38 AM   #9
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What exactly do you mean by having to push down on the slide stop is a "real bear"? Is it because you can't easily reach it without shifting your grip or it is physically difficult to depress? I have never understood or been a fan of the whole "slingshot" slide release thing. While it works fine with some guns with a lot of others it can't be done and requires being able to get a good grip on the rear of the possibly wet greasy oily bloody slide. Manually depressing the slide stop with either of your hands works with every 1911 I have ever held and is a positive action that can really can only be screwed up if you lack proper training or do not have a functioning thumbs. The slide stop was put there for a reason. You should use it. To modify a slide stop to NOT lock open on empty you file the engagement tab until the mag follower can no longer reach it. I also grind a small dimple into the stop where it contacts the plunger to hold it down so that it can not bounce in recoil. The only way the slide will lock open is if I push up with my thumb. I absolutely will not tolerate a gun that locks back with rounds remaining in the mag. The convenience of locking open on an empty mag is not worth the disaster of having your gun stop working when you really need it to work.

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Old December 22, 2009, 11:39 AM   #10
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It's your gun, do with it what you want and see if it works for you.

Since there is no machining required, it's not a big deal to try an extended slide stop.

Wilson Combat makes a "tactical" model which doesn't extend too far and minimizes the chances of accidentally locking the slide back.

I owned and shot a 1911 with an ext slide stop, but I guess I didn't shoot enough rounds through it to realize it wasn't a good feature.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/sid=3..._Slide_Release

comes on blue or stainless

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Old December 22, 2009, 01:13 PM   #11
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I have never understood or been a fan of the whole "slingshot" slide release thing. While it works fine with some guns with a lot of others it can't be done and requires being able to get a good grip on the rear of the possibly wet greasy oily bloody slide.
Don't do the "slingshot pinch" with thumb and forefinger; come over the top and grasp the rear of the slide with your whole hand.

Of course, it is important to practice manipulating the slide stop with the thumb of the strong hand and the trigger finger or the weak hand when shooting one-handed since there is no guarantee that both mitts will be available when the balloon goes up for real.
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Old December 22, 2009, 03:05 PM   #12
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That is exactly how I chamber a round into an empty gun and unload and show clear. I just can't understand the instructors who teach their students to always use the slingshot method to release the slide when so many guns out there won't release the slide stop by pulling the slide past lock. As I said before, all of them will release by manually tripping the stop. Teaching students a method that may or may not work with their gun seems questionable to me. Of course, I would be an old fart. Tamara, I love your blog.
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Old December 22, 2009, 04:27 PM   #13
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The problem is pushing the slide stop down on the sti.I own quite afew other guns and can release all of them with no problem.I have tried over the top grab and sti will still not release slide lock and the slide is all the way back.It is escort model in 9mm.Spoke to tech from Brownells he said 45 slide release will work as long as you use full metal follower mags so I ordered one that is made by ed brown with a larger lip on it.
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