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Old December 17, 2009, 02:30 PM   #1
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FN FAR 308 or DPMS 308

Which would you choose?

(And why?)
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Old December 17, 2009, 07:14 PM   #2
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I'd buy the FN just to be different.
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Old December 17, 2009, 07:18 PM   #3
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I'd buy the one that felt better to me.

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Old December 17, 2009, 08:15 PM   #4
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AR has more customization available and is more tacticool looking.

FN is likely more accurate, softer shooting and more comfortable to shoot.

I have owned an FNAR and now own an AR10. The AR is more "fun" which was what I was after, mostly due to the stuff I can buy for it, but the FN was definitely softer shooting, more comfortable and more accurate than the AR10.

If you can get past the looks and the price of the mags, the FN is a great rifle.

If you like to play and tinker with things and make something your own custom look, the AR is likely a better option.
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Old December 17, 2009, 09:48 PM   #5
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Dont be silly, get the SAIGA and save your money !

The SAIGA will be more reliable and easier to clean and
service due to the AK-47 mechanism vs the hi maintenance
others
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Old December 17, 2009, 09:53 PM   #6
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I would go for the FN just becuase I don't see the point of an AR10 type.

I mean I dont hold ANYTHING against it, it's just, if I'm going to be buying a .308 I'm going to buy a dedicated .308 rifle, not a platform that also shoots it.
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Old December 17, 2009, 10:28 PM   #7
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I love my FNAR. Super clean, reliable, and accurate. Under moa all day with good ammo. 1/2 moa easy with handloads. Easy to adjust with the supplied inserts, and piston driven. The mags are expensive, but are built tough. They are also long, so you can seat bullets way out if needed.

BTW, Cabelas had a special for $1300 with 2 20 rnd and 1 10 rnd mag. Awesome deal for this firearm.

On a side note, this gun is coming out under the Winchester name also, SuperX-AR Varmint, or SXAR. Same gun, different name and in camo.
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Old December 17, 2009, 10:32 PM   #8
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I just can't get use to the looks. it looks more like a benelli shotgun than a semi auto rifle. Quality is top notch, but I would probably pick the AR style because I am shallow.
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Old December 17, 2009, 10:38 PM   #9
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The AR 10 may look better, but that is just because they are everywhere and what you are used to seeing. For the same price though, the FNAR whips it up and down the range.

Dean1818, you must decide what is more important, form or function.
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Old December 18, 2009, 04:04 AM   #10
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I knew a girl in high school.She adored me,looked at me like a pork chop.She could cook too.But I blew her off and married another woman,because she was butt ugly, just like the FNAR is.I got standards.They are low,but I got 'em.
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Old December 18, 2009, 08:18 AM   #11
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lol, yup. you take an AR-10 to the range and you get people making comments about your gun. you can dress it up and make it look even more badazz than stock. you take an FNAR and no one gives a crap. It is the ugly fat girl that can cook, clean and work. The AR-10 is the supermodel. Finicky, unreliable and a real beeatch, but she is hot!!!!

If I wanted a hard working supermodel I'd get a DSA FAL...lol
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Old December 18, 2009, 10:15 PM   #12
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Old December 18, 2009, 11:03 PM   #13
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Why limit the choice to a DPMS .308? If you're going to get an AR-10 get a real one from Armalite.

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Old December 19, 2009, 12:14 AM   #14
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I have a DPMS .308 and really like it. The biggest con that comes to mind is that it gets DIRTY very QUICKLY. I haven't put it through any sustained (100 rds or more) strings of fire and therefore have never had any issues as a result of it being dirty, I just know it gets dirty in a hurry. Here's a scan of 6x 3 shot groups. (loaded 18 rds in a mag and fired the groups... No time for cooling) Ammo was Federal Gold Medal Match 168 gr., range was 100 yards.



And here is my rifle.
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Old December 19, 2009, 12:37 AM   #15
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ive always wanted a FNAR... i like pretty much any thing made by FN.. i think its the ultimate .308 semi-auto..but like i said im pretty partial to FN.. im not knocking any other rifle, SHOOTER JOHN yours is cool..ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old December 19, 2009, 12:46 AM   #16
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Thanks for the comment... ROLL TIDE!
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Old December 19, 2009, 07:03 AM   #17
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I'm a pretty practical guy but when it comes to girls and guns, they gotta look good. That excludes the FN. And I'm a big FN fan. I've got a couple of pistols and a FS2000 which looks like a ray gun. In fact I had my daughter convinced that it was a ray gun. Though to give the devil his due, I did handle one in Gander Mountain and it felt good, real good. That's another thing I require in a females and guns. Gotta feel good, gotta look good. Both. In the same woman. Or gun. Then again, I might buy the FN just to be different. I'll bet it would be a great hunting gun. I don't remember, what does it weigh?

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Old December 19, 2009, 08:39 AM   #18
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the FNAR is 8.2 lbs

The AR definitly is more sexy, but........

Everything I hear about the FNAR says it is an AWESOME rifle.

Very rugged, very very accurate, and not "run of the mill"


As far as hot chicks....... in between marriages, I tried to date all the hot chicks that I could get to go out with me......

What I found is the hotter the girl..... the more of a nut case.......

AND..... the more they wanted to spend my coin.....

Is there a true comparison with rifles?????
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Old December 19, 2009, 10:49 AM   #19
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The 308 was actually the first design of the AR. My 308 only shoots that and 7.62X51.

I ran 700 rounds of Wolf thru without cleaning just to see, no problems. I have never had a problem, no jams, no FTF, no FTE. After about 3000 rnd I just replaced the firing pin, (as a precaution). I will continue to use the old one at the range until it fails so that I can get an accurate rnd count.

I used it for deer season and it worked out splendidly. It is everything I could ask for in a MBR, accurate, reliable, consistent. Parts and mags are plentiful and affordable and now PMAGS.

I have heard people say that DPMS uses poor quality metal, really, then why is it that the Knight and the Fulton armory rifles customs based on the DPMS lower?

I always love the posts from people that have never shot a gun, much less touched one and say it is crap.
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Old December 19, 2009, 01:20 PM   #20
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FNAR, reliable in the few outings? so what. It is a relatively new gun and there is no history behind it. You really have no clue how it will hold up. The AR's are not the most reliable, but they have had many improvements and are much better than they use to be. Really, if you are looking for reliability and a hunting rifle look, get the M1A/M14. It is a much better platform and the extra money you spend on the rifle will be outweighed by the 5-6 extra magazines you buy at $40 less each. I have nothing against the FNAR, but to say it is proven reliability and strength would be a misnomer.
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Old December 19, 2009, 02:14 PM   #21
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Brenten,

The FNAR is just a 308 BAR with a heavy barrel and tacticool stock. They have been proven reliable.

In fact, one of the coolest things about the BAR is that is was considered for the Army's sniper rifle during the testing phase in the mid 1980's. At Ft. Benning you can go to the Infantry Museum and see the BAR in 300 Win Mag that was used for the testing. In the end the Army wanted a 308, but that BAR shot TIGHT.

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Old December 19, 2009, 02:30 PM   #22
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The modern BAR has not been proven as a battle rifle firing thousands of rounds. The old BAR was an overbuilt beast that may only have it's action in common with the FNAR, which is built more like the modern BAR, which again is not tested as a rifle that can fire hundreds of rounds continuously. Remember, the old BAR was so heavy it was replaced quickly by the M1 garand.

Don't get me wrong, I have had a few modern BAR's one in 300wm and one in 338 wm. Great guns and I wish I had kept them. However, it is one thing to shoot as sniper or hunting versus battle conditions where you lay down lots of fire in short periods of time and get guns really dirty. The FNAR may be good as a battle rifle, but that has not been proven and when one compares it to an AR10 style weapon I assume that is what they are wanting. Remember the remington semi autos in 30-06 and 308? Ok rifle for hunting, but not overbuilt for much more.
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Old December 19, 2009, 02:53 PM   #23
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I don't like the way the FN shoulders. AR fits me much better.
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Old December 19, 2009, 03:02 PM   #24
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If the FNAR makes it past 10 years of life it may get some nice alternative stocks which will fit better. Problem is that you are trying to combine a hunting rifle stock with a pistol grip of an assault rifle. that is hard to do unless you do a total redesign like the sage stock for the M1A.
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Old December 19, 2009, 03:31 PM   #25
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The modern BAR has not been proven as a battle rifle firing thousands of rounds. The old BAR was an overbuilt beast that may only have it's action in common with the FNAR, which is built more like the modern BAR, which again is not tested as a rifle that can fire hundreds of rounds continuously. Remember, the old BAR was so heavy it was replaced quickly by the M1 garand.

Don't get me wrong, I have had a few modern BAR's one in 300wm and one in 338 wm. Great guns and I wish I had kept them. However, it is one thing to shoot as sniper or hunting versus battle conditions where you lay down lots of fire in short periods of time and get guns really dirty. The FNAR may be good as a battle rifle, but that has not been proven and when one compares it to an AR10 style weapon I assume that is what they are wanting. Remember the remington semi autos in 30-06 and 308? Ok rifle for hunting, but not overbuilt for much more.
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LOL, neither the FNAR nor the AR-10 are battle tested to your criteria. The closest thing to "battle tested" is the SR-25 which is, yup, a sniper rifle not meant for thousands of rounds of torture testing....

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