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Old December 14, 2009, 07:11 PM   #1
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Handy, Lightweight, REASONABLE .223 Bolt??

I want to buy a nice little bolt 223 rifle for coyotes, varmints, and some extended range plinking. I'd like something extremely light, easy to carry and handle and the ability to shoot with some decent consistency out to about 300 yards. I've been looking at the Ruger M77 Hawkeye Compact that has a 16" barrel. Seems like a nice handy rifle, only my local gun shop doesn't carry ANY ruger M77's, let alone the compact version. I'd like a walnut stock as opposed to a synthetic. The Ruger retails for $600+, and no rings or scope, so I figure I'd have $800+ in the thing easy, and I just don't want to spend that. Anyone have any other suggestions? I don't mind buying a used rifle if there is a particular make/model that is readily available online or commonly found in shops. Autos like a Mini or AR platform are out of the question for this purpose.
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Old December 14, 2009, 07:14 PM   #2
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Given your criteria - the CZ 527 is what you want.
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Old December 14, 2009, 07:15 PM   #3
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+1 on CZ bolt rifles, great value for the money
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Old December 14, 2009, 07:22 PM   #4
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I don't think a Tikka is quite so tidy, but they're dandy rifles as well.

One of my local shops has that Ruger in stock. Good Lord is it small and handy! I want it BAD but I just can't get myself to pay that for a .223 carbine that doesn't hold 30 rounds. But seriously, they're just lovely.

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Old December 14, 2009, 07:22 PM   #5
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stevens/savage 200, sell off the synthetic and get a savage 10 or 110 series stock cheap
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Old December 14, 2009, 07:24 PM   #6
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Old December 14, 2009, 07:35 PM   #7
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You sure the Ruger doesn't come with rings? My last Ruger did. In fact, I traded with Ruger for Low rings fer free.

CZ does make an excellent rifle as do several other makers.
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Old December 14, 2009, 09:22 PM   #8
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Another vote for the CZ 527 American. I have one in .223 and it's a great rifle. With HSM 50gr Ballistic Tip ammo it will give me sub MOA groups off the bench at 100 yards. It's light and well balanced.
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Old December 14, 2009, 09:46 PM   #9
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That ruger with the 16.5" barrel is a nice rifle, especially in 223. Order one sight unseen with confidence.
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Old December 14, 2009, 10:14 PM   #10
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The rugers come with the medium set of rings free in the box...
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Old December 14, 2009, 10:27 PM   #11
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all of those are $500+ rifles...

the OP said REASONABLE... the stevens is $329 NIB, leaving money for GOOD optics and even ammo or goodies for the rifle like a new stock or something...

and if you hand load, I know of a SWEET load for it

granted, i've owned a CZ, but they arent all that.
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Old December 14, 2009, 11:14 PM   #12
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Handy, Lightweight, REASONABLE .223 Bolt??

Ditto Savage/Stevens 200.Stevens 200.jpg
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Old December 14, 2009, 11:33 PM   #13
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Thanks for suggestions......

I guess to get what I want, I'm probably going to have to save my pennies and buy the Ruger. Its really what I want, and I'm sure I'm not the only one to find out that its better to save your money and buy what you want rather than skimp and end up not enjoying what you get. Sounds like no one has a problem with M77 Compact other than the price. New question, what about a good, reasonable optic?
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Old December 15, 2009, 01:48 AM   #14
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CZ 527 carbine or Remington model 7 carbine.
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Old December 15, 2009, 03:12 AM   #15
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Rem model Seven is surprisingly handy to carry. There was a laminate stock version that was pretty nice.

Savage makes a model 25 that's nice (though it's heavier because of the full-sized stock).





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Old December 15, 2009, 03:20 AM   #16
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I shoot a remington 700 youth model. 20" barrel, 12 1/2 lop. $399 new. It has a scout mounted 2x7x32 extended eye relief electrodot, burris pistol scope with burris med height quick detach z rings. Backed up with a willams peep sight. 7 power will get you to 300 yds On 2 power with the electrodot on, it can be used as a red dot and is quick for across the room, or across the street. The red dot is variable in intensity and can be used for low light situations. stocky's stocks has laminate stocks at good prices and are exceptional stocks. The scout mounted scope gives it good balance. fast and light.
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Old December 15, 2009, 04:22 AM   #17
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A CZ 527 Lux only weighs a tad over 6 pounds and has iron sights. It is accurate, light weight, reliable, has iron sights and is ready for a scope. They are reasonably priced as well.
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Old December 15, 2009, 10:45 AM   #18
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You might consider the Savage Model 25 Classic, blackdog - the street price is just a tad over $500 new:



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Old December 15, 2009, 11:42 AM   #19
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Buy a Savage or Stevens. Not compact enough? Any gunsmith can cut the barrel down for cheap. Usually less than $50.

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Old December 15, 2009, 12:17 PM   #20
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Another vote for the CZ527. I've been happy with mine.



Despite the soda straw barrel it is plenty accurate to pop prairie dogs out to about 400 or so.
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Old December 15, 2009, 12:22 PM   #21
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The Ruger retails for $600+, and no rings or scope
http://www.ruger.com/products/m77Haw.../features.html

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PATENTED INTEGRAL SCOPE MOUNTS, machined directly on the solid-steel receiver provide a stable mounting
surface for scope rings, eliminating a potential source of looseness and inaccuracy in the field (scope rings included FREE).
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Old December 15, 2009, 07:51 PM   #22
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Ridiculous. "What's 2+2?" AR-15! "Who was the 44th president of the US?" AR-15!.

OP is dead set on a Ruger...despite several suggestions for the CZ. I wanted a Ruger recently...I still want it, I don't think there's anything wrong with it @ all.
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Old December 16, 2009, 02:15 AM   #23
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mini-mauser

NObody's mentioned the Mini-Mausers as imported by Interarms, charles Daily, and now Rem, though I can't think of the model #.

The Interarms rifles are out there used, the new Rems are pricey.

The actions are scaled to the ctg, so they are scads lighter than a Stevens or
Sav full size bolt rifle. A 20" sporting taper bbl adds to portability. The triggers are adjustable.

With a 6x leu, a simple leather carry strap, fully loaded, mine's just over 6 lbs.

It'll shoot into an inch w/ factory ammo, till that skinny bbl heats, but whocares on a hunting/rambling rifle.
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Old December 16, 2009, 07:56 AM   #24
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buy a CZ 527!
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Old December 16, 2009, 09:11 AM   #25
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I picked a Mint used Browning A Bolt in 223 with rings last month for $450 and it's an excellent rifle. Ruger makes an excellent rifle and if that's what you want you should hold out and get it.
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