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Old December 13, 2009, 09:06 AM   #1
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New Mini 14

I recently purchased a Ruger Mini 14, basically went with it because of the price, i was just looking for something to have some fun with without costing an arm and a leg. Any suggestions for what i should sight it in at? General consensus is 200 yds but like i said i'm new to a rifle!
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Old December 13, 2009, 09:41 AM   #2
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Just bend over buying mags is all.
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Old December 13, 2009, 09:53 AM   #3
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I was thinking the same thing on mags but, they have dropped over the last year or so, inspite of the obama's coming price gouging. If you check midwayusa.com and cheaperthendirt.com they both are listing mags fairly cheap. I had a mini several years ago. Not the most accurate in the world but at 100 yards it was decent usually around 3 1/2 inches from a good prone position. Super handy little carbine though, kinda heavy but balances really well, points really well, I loved it. Shot a few coyotes with it and lots of paper bad guys got shot to hell. Mags were expensive then but, it was during the clinton era and were alot few of them available then AR mags.

200 Yards is about right. The cartridge is capable of alot more, but the minis, from what I have heard and seen with mine, start getting a little iffy past about 300.
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Old December 13, 2009, 09:53 AM   #4
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I have an early 90's ranch stainless model and it is still going strong, none the worse for wear. plenty of accuracy and mine is totally reliable. As for sighting in that is up to you and what you plan to do with it. Mags go for 15-20 bucks range.
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Old December 13, 2009, 10:09 AM   #5
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Yes you can get mags for the things in the 20 buck area but they are hit and miss. Decent mags that you can trust are like 45 bucks on a good day.
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Old December 13, 2009, 10:13 AM   #6
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I had one, once upon a time. It was never the most accurate little rifle, but it wasn't bad. You'll enjoy it. And there are enough after market accessories out there if you want to "doll it up"
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Old December 13, 2009, 11:00 AM   #7
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Old December 13, 2009, 11:33 AM   #8
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I never had a problem with mag reliability. My only problem has been that they are not the easiest mags to insert into a gun quickly.
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Old December 13, 2009, 01:03 PM   #9
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200 yds?

A Mini 14?

Oh. You said sight it in, not zero it. My bad.
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Old December 13, 2009, 01:05 PM   #10
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Shot a new S/S Ranch yesterday(wearing Leupie glass) and despite the hype,they still agg in accords to the Mini's of old.

They are shoddy from stem to stern and pale to most everything in the accuracy department.....................
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Old December 13, 2009, 01:57 PM   #11
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First post, so be gentle with me.

I too own a newer Mini-14. It is a 580 series Tactical ( I hate that word :barfwith the 16" bbl. I have found this rifle to be extremely accurate for a semi-auto. I have found the 580 to be as accurate as any M-16A1 I was ever issued during my tour of duty, and I maintained an "Expert" qualification during my five year tour.
An extremely well built rifle, the Mini is designed for use on a ranch/farm, and I have personally found this application to be true. The rifle will feed any practically ammuniton that you shove into it. It is a very accurate little carbine in the 50-75m ranges, and acceptable in the 100-125m ranges...I personally would not call this weapon a 200+m gun, but I would not call most autos a 200+m guns...but that is me, and not a good consensus.
Magazines fo rthe Mini, can be bought from several aftermarket manufacturers, but Ruger factory mags are recommended. I have some unknown AM mags that function flawlessley, and many Mini owners like the Pro-Mag, AM steel mags. Try the Pro-Mags, for an AM solution, but right now you can get Ruger Factory 20 rounders from CDNN Sports for $24.99

http://www.cdnninvestments.com/rumi14220blm.html

Hard to go wrong here at CDNN for this price. They seem to be the best suppliers of Mini AM mags and factory new mags.

Here is a 16 roung magazine dump @50 yards I shot out of my 580 the other day. I was just trying to empty the magazine.

BTW...I really like this forum, and look forward to being a member, learning new things, and meeting new people.
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Old December 13, 2009, 02:01 PM   #12
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AR's will shoot circles around fullhouse Mini's.

.5MOA is easily coaxed over the counter,less reliability concessions,snug chambers or any other fluff.

AR triggers trump the Mini too,such things in conjunction,do add to a literal landslide.................
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Old December 13, 2009, 03:14 PM   #13
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You are correct, AR's are much more accurate, by a long shot, but my mini was much more reliable than several M4's I had. So it is a trade off. The mini I own is also quite accurate and at 100 yards has consistently shot 2-3 inch groups with ball ammo from a solid kneeling position. I have an aftermarket folding polymer stock and this may be the reason for the better accuracy, I don't know. However, I got this stock at the same time I got the rifle circa 1991-2.
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Old December 13, 2009, 03:20 PM   #14
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An M4 that doesn't run,is assuredly devoid of proper lubrication.

There are many over the counter AR's,that will reliably shoot sub 3" groups at 300yds,with quality factory fodder. That is a given..................
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Old December 13, 2009, 03:51 PM   #15
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Old December 13, 2009, 03:56 PM   #16
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Gets sweeter at the loading bench,but that is sorta apples/oranges,as per the crux...thus far................
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Old December 13, 2009, 03:57 PM   #17
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yes lubrication was at a minimum on all the guns. M4's are very accurate, way more than any mini could ever hope to be. But the mini was still a very good gun. I have been out of touch with minis since the mid 90's. Has something happened to quality of these guns? The minis of the 80's and early 90's had a fine rep, not the bad rap they are getting here today.
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Old December 13, 2009, 03:59 PM   #18
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Mini's have always been far better devices for sending distress signals,than precision platforms for clustering bullets in a predetermined POA.

They are Improved Cylinder,at best and that isn't the 223's Swan Song..............
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Old December 13, 2009, 05:57 PM   #19
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You can find FACTORY 20 rounders all day long for $30-----often for less than that if you look around a bit.

Considering there are many crap mags out there at the $30 mark---the factory Mini mags are a bargain. The Butler Creeks for the 10/22 come to mind first---plastic junk and they're $30 everywhere you look.
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Old December 13, 2009, 06:02 PM   #20
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BC 25rd steel lips,feed/function like they have eyes.

I've a few dozen.....................
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Old December 13, 2009, 06:08 PM   #21
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Here we go again.But stupid me, I will bite anyways.

The Ruger Mini-14 ss with a factory folder and factory 20 rounders is quite possibly the best truck,trunk, hd, woods loafing, tin can popper, etc.etc.etc. ad nauseum, rifle that can be had today.

Ar's jam to much.
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Old December 13, 2009, 06:13 PM   #22
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Just what LR venues does the Mini roll onto?(grin)

The Mini is a great fit,for folks who know nuttin' and wish to stay that course.......................
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Old December 13, 2009, 06:30 PM   #23
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the ruger is a great rifle all the way around . it will do anything the ar will . 2 to 3 moa is good enough. its not a target rifle . and it never showed up an any baned list witch is great . the only thing i dont like about it is you are limited to what kind of scope you can put on it
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Old December 13, 2009, 06:33 PM   #24
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Very humorous,how those that do the least,seem bent to justify same.

A 3MOA 223 is akin to your girlfriend having an adam's apple..............
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Old December 13, 2009, 06:39 PM   #25
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