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Old December 5, 2009, 07:53 PM   #1
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Looking for quick and hard hitting deer rifle.

Looking for a quick and hard hitting deer rifle. Lightweight is a must. I was thinking of a BAR lightwieght in a 300 mag. Good and quick on follow up and has the reach for a poke accross a long clear-cut. I have the ability for a old Browning BPR (pump) in 30-06. My glass for the project is a Trijicon Accupoint 3x9. Your thoughts are welcomed. Thanks.
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Old December 5, 2009, 07:56 PM   #2
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BLR in 450 Marlin if you want quick and hard and Browning. The 300 WM is more of a long distance slow aim.
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Old December 5, 2009, 09:22 PM   #3
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When I think "light & quick", the 300 Win Mag isn't the first caliber that comes to mind. I'm thinking short action choices. A Browning BLR Lightweight '81 is what does come to mind first...but in a 308 Win. or 300WSM. Or the BAR Lightweight in 308....it has a 20" barrel instead of the 23".
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Old December 5, 2009, 09:28 PM   #4
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remington 7600 30-06
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Old December 5, 2009, 10:03 PM   #5
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sav 99 in 308....bobn
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Old December 5, 2009, 10:04 PM   #6
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Don't miss.
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Old December 5, 2009, 10:18 PM   #7
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How about this...why don't you stick to fishing and I'll hunt deer...I don't miss.
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Old December 5, 2009, 10:28 PM   #8
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How about this...why don't you stick to fishing and I'll hunt deer...I don't miss.
The problem with you hunting deer, is you don't know how. If you need a follow up shot then you screwed up. Odds are you will only very rarely get a second chance. You be much better served finding a rifle that fits you well in a cartridge you can comfortably shoot without finding recoil obtrusive than worrying about what to do after you screw up your first shot.

How many deer have you shot? How many deer have you cleanly killed?

I'll fish, you cut bait.
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Old December 5, 2009, 10:30 PM   #9
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7 mag drops deer like a hammer no? BAR Short Trac Stalker in 7mm WSM.

Short action, ballistics nearly the same as 7mm Rem Mag, looks pretty handy. Heck, I've almost talked myself into one!!

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Old December 5, 2009, 10:32 PM   #10
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We've got an old 7400 Remington here that shoots about as well as the resident bolt action, and has run flawlessly with hatfulls of my 30-06 reloads. I can't think of a better tool for the purposes you describe.
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Old December 5, 2009, 10:47 PM   #11
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May I suggest a Ruger Hawkeye compact in .308?
16'', .308, 6 1/2 pounds, stainless steel, 98-style claw extractor, controlled feed, laminated wood, 4 rounds internal mag.

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Old December 5, 2009, 10:55 PM   #12
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A Winchester or Marlin 30-30 sounds like the perfect answer for a dedicated deer rifle.

Light, really quick to shoulder, really fast second shot, a maximum point blank range (or pipe zero) in excess of 250 yards, and has been dropping deer with authority for a long time.

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Old December 5, 2009, 11:13 PM   #13
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Well thanks you for KNOWING what I do in the woods. Every deer I have shot has been with ONE SHOT. They fell down and that was that...done. I'm thinking that if you had something to add other than "DONT MISS" you should tell me what your thoughts are on the question, not a smart comment! I asked this question in good faith thinking that I may get some responses from people who may have a different take on things. For those you have added, thanks.
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Old December 5, 2009, 11:17 PM   #14
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I can't believe in all these replies no one mentioned the .270 Winchester, the penultimate deer round. Jack O'Connor is rolling over in his grave...
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Old December 5, 2009, 11:22 PM   #15
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I 2nd the 7mag
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Old December 5, 2009, 11:29 PM   #16
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Sir I would like to add this...There are times where I hunt, heavy timber, deadfalls, thick and nasty stuff, that you don't have the perfect broadside shot and your looking at the deer of a lifetime. You need to react now and not wait for the perfect shot. This may go against how some may hunt and I understand and respect that, however, it is the way it is for where I hunt....NH ME VT.
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Old December 5, 2009, 11:43 PM   #17
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How you hunt don't bother me, Ed. I wondered whether you were hunting open, close or a combination of both; so I'm glad you cleared that up.

I still recommend the 7400 in 30-06. It is available in 18" length or your local gun mechanic can bob the longer model off.

Ours is fitted with a Williams peeps, a white bead front and it's zeroed to print at the top edge of the front sight at 200 yards. I unscrew the aperture and just sight through the threaded hole; a very quick and deadly arrangement.
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Old December 5, 2009, 11:43 PM   #18
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I'm not attempting to be a smart mouth. Deer don't hang around waiting for you to put a second one in the pipe.

If you can't make a lethal shot you have no business shooting. How many deer have you killed cleanly? What's your general level of rifle shooting?

Look, if you're not going to be honest with the question, you owe it to the deer to be honest with yourself.

Welcome to the line. I'm sorry if I read like a jerk, but you need some more information before you head into the woods. We have a duty to attempt to be as humane as possible to protect our heritage for our future generations.
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Old December 6, 2009, 12:05 AM   #19
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+1 on the don't miss. Pick your shots. Let the Army worry about quick follow up shots, hunting is about humane kills.
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Old December 6, 2009, 12:13 AM   #20
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i second the 270win.. as for a follow up shot, none of you guys ever had to take one ? really? kinda find that hard to believe.. but whatever..
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Old December 6, 2009, 12:19 AM   #21
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Havn't needed one yet, and follow up shots are rare in the woods I hunt.
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Old December 6, 2009, 12:21 AM   #22
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Old December 6, 2009, 12:25 AM   #23
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Nope; qw, never except one time I used a handgun to finish a high lung shot that DRTed.

How many have you taken? I'm willing to admit my experiences have colored my view.
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Old December 6, 2009, 12:55 AM   #24
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How about a BLR in .358 Winchester. One of my favorite rifles.

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.. as for a follow up shot, none of you guys ever had to take one ? really? kinda find that hard to believe.. but whatever..
+1
Seems to be some elitist here. I think there might also be some people stretching the truth a wee bit too. JMO
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Old December 6, 2009, 12:57 AM   #25
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I'd probably be a little hesitant to use a .243 on Bambi beyond 300 yards, but I know that a .308 or '06 is good to 500, anyhow. Anything within that power range would do plenty good, seems like.

To me, "lightweight" means around seven pounds or a tad less. I haven't seen semi-autos down there. Bolt-actions, yeah.

For whatever reason, "quick second shot" just never has been important to me. So far, I've had ample reason for that belief.
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