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Old November 23, 2009, 06:11 PM   #1
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Smallest .44 magnum revolvers?

This is more of a personal curiosity question than anything. I have no (ok, some, but not serious) interest in owning a gun like what I'm asking about, but I do want to know what's out there.

What are the smallest .44 magnum revolvers out there? I'm talking along the lines of a snub-nose, like the .357 j-frames for example. Something designed to be easily pocket concealed, while still being a .44 "hand cannon". I know I've seen some that were almost the size of my 442 and fired .44 Specials, but not Magnums.
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Old November 23, 2009, 06:26 PM   #2
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snub barrel, but large frame...

this is my 6 shot Dan Wesson snubbie... with the comp nut on the end, it's pretty easy shooting, even with heavy loads... but it's not a pocket gun...



I'm thinking the only thing I've ever seen that was a true pocket 44 magnum, was a 44 mag derringer ( but I haven't seen one in years )

otherwise, this is my Air Lite L frame 5 shot 44 special... I think Taurus had one this size in 44 Mag, I don't think S&W ever offered a magnum in that frame ???

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Old November 23, 2009, 06:44 PM   #3
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Wheel Man.....

That's a nice DW.

I can't tell but is it a .44 Magnum??

Did the comp alleviate some barrel flip?
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Old November 23, 2009, 07:31 PM   #4
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These are basically your smallest .44 magnum snubnoses.

The Ruger Alaskan and the S&W 29 or 629 with a 2.5 to 3 inch barrel.

They are both big and heavy but easily concealed with the right holster. Simply Rugged holsters conceal both of these quite well.

RUGER ALASKAN




S&W 629 3 INCH BARREL
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Old November 23, 2009, 08:42 PM   #5
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Ditto, as 44 deerslayer says. Hard to beat either one. I carry my Alaskan more because of the SR holster.
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Old November 23, 2009, 09:06 PM   #6
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Deerslayer is right, don't think you can go much smaller than something like the N frame and still handle the high chamber pressures of the .44 mag.

Gotta buy another shoulder rig now, got this one comming this week from a forum member ( thanx JD500)...Backpacker S&W, will have factory rubber grips, will look around for some nice wood though. I like that Alaskan too...sweet looking revolver.

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Old November 23, 2009, 11:54 PM   #7
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The Taurus Tracker is probably a contender in the DA market. It's a five shot .44 Mag on their "compact frame" which is roughly equivalent to a S&W L-Frame

http://www.taurususa.com/product-det...rumbseries=TS2
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Old November 24, 2009, 07:15 AM   #8
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I can't tell but is it a .44 Magnum??

Did the comp alleviate some barrel flip?
yes... & yes, alot... makes even heavy loads easy to shoot...
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Old November 24, 2009, 08:13 AM   #9
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All steel

This may be the smallest/lightest all steel 44mags in S&W's line-up.

629 carry comp



The picture must be old, since it shows an ejector rod pin lockup, when in fact it uses a ball detent lockup.
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Old November 24, 2009, 09:07 AM   #10
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Taurus 2" 5 shot


http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=147421334
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Old November 24, 2009, 09:07 AM   #11
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>>RUGER ALASKAN<<

The only one I'd trust for the job at hand.
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Old November 24, 2009, 09:52 AM   #12
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>>RUGER ALASKAN<<

The only one I'd trust for the job at hand.
actually if the S&W's are right to start with, ( I've had a couple issues with a new S&W ) they should be fine... I'd be OK with the Taurus if on the "Raging" frame, but I'd be pretty leary of the compact Tracker in 44 Mag...

My Dan Wesson has been around in it's present format 10 years or so longer than any Alaskan ( it was built with the same concept, before the Rugers came out ), it's a very heavy duty revolver, I built it that way to trust my life with... BTW, not dissing the Alaskan, as I have one in 454 Casull

only that it's not the only "trustworthy" gun out there...
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Old November 24, 2009, 10:21 AM   #13
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A current 4" 629, SKU #163603 & MSRP $1,035, isn't a bad choice - gripped with the Hogue/S&W .460/.500 Magnum monogrip, regular SAAMI .44 Magnums are fine. It's OAL is 9.63" and it weighs 41.5 oz. The 629 Carry Comp, #170279 & $1,311, is 8" & 38.0 oz. The .44 Alaskan is $992, 7.62", & 41.0 oz.

Of course, the 629MG isn't in production right now, but that 4"-er weighs only 39.5 oz. I've had both it and the current production 4" 629 - and prefer the latter due to it's larger hammer & trigger. Really, it's about as 'minimal' as I'd go, if I were going to tote a revolver loaded with real .44 Magnums. If 200gr Gold Dots in .44 Special were deemed enough, as in a CCW in 'urban jungles', my 2.5" hammerless AirLite Ti, a 296, will do nicely. Ijn fact, with a 240gr LSWC as 'first', followed by the Gold Dots, mine has sufficed for woods-walking here in the southeast.

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Old November 24, 2009, 12:32 PM   #14
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This may be of interest;

Was looking at the ballistics over at http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/44mag.html The 44mags got good numbers out of a snub! Impressive.
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Old November 24, 2009, 01:16 PM   #15
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Silent:

Really nice Backpacker! I like the tracks across the cylinder.
I own a Tracker 44, and it cannot handle the higher pressure loads. Wish I had known that before I bought it. But so far it has been a good handgun. At 34 oz it's not a bad gun to have on your hip all day. And the recoil is a breeze. Mine was $507 OTD at a gun show 1 yr ago. Definately not a pocket gun though. Fits nicely into a standard 357 holster.
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Old November 24, 2009, 01:26 PM   #16
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I like the tracks across the cylinder.
I'm still trying to figure out how they got that pigmy bear to walk on it though

Thanks for the chart Ice Monkey...interesting info
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Old November 24, 2009, 08:15 PM   #17
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A 2inch 44 mag has the same muzzle velocity as the average 45 Colt round.
I knew my love for the 45 colt was founded on solid ground
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Old November 24, 2009, 10:04 PM   #18
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Good thread!!!!! I been kicking around the idea of a small .44mag myself!
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Old November 24, 2009, 10:33 PM   #19
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Had a Tracker had light strike issues and I'm really not sure it would live under heavy 44 mag use.I now have a Smith 29 a much better package.

I've since switched to Hydro-shocks 240 @ 1120 ought to do.
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Old November 25, 2009, 11:39 AM   #20
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I almost forgot, if you just want to carry a .44 mag and not shoot it a lot (PAIN involved) S&W also makes several lightweight .44 mags these days. The nightguard series offers a lightweight .44 mag and there is also the 329PD.

Couple of links:
http://www.gunblast.com/SW-Nightguards.htm

http://www.gunblast.com/SW329PD.htm
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Old November 25, 2009, 11:45 AM   #21
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I had a Tracker, that had problems with the cylinder not locking up in place some times. Could have had a catastrophic blow up. It went down the road. I currently have the Ruger Alaskan 44mag with the Simply Rugged holster, that I love. Its very decent shooting, even with heavy hardcast, for Griz country.
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Old November 25, 2009, 12:07 PM   #22
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Hey 45reloader … I am not trying to run down the 45LC which is questionably your favorite round but …

Have a look at those numbers again. There seems to be a difference of aprox. 2oo feet per second out of a snub size barrel. In a hand cannon throwing out heavy projectiles, that isn’t exactly “the same velocity” in my books!

Just saying ... I could be wrong.
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Old December 1, 2009, 10:08 AM   #23
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Did you factor in the extra bullet weight and diameter of the 45 colt.
Also I should of added the 45 colt +P numbers.
Here are some 45 colt +P from 2inch gun(leave out the 454)
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-SRHAlaskan454.htm
Some longer barrel heavy +P loads
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger_Bisley45.htm

It's a classic round that has been upgraded.The 44special was moved up to the 44 mag.And the 45 colt moved up to +P with very similar results.

Here is the same gun 44 mag vs 45 colt
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-Redhawk4.htm
http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-Redhawk45.htm
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Old December 1, 2009, 11:20 AM   #24
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Or don't leave out the 454...

My SRH Alaskan pushes a 360 gr. Cast Performance pill at 1060 fps (avg. velocity) when loaded with 21.5 gr. of Hodgdon Lil' Gun. I can also load 45 Colt right up to 44 mag peformance... no problem, if I want a "light kicker" for plinking or social purposes.
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Old December 1, 2009, 10:37 PM   #25
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no mtn revolver

I didn't see anybody mention the S&W 629 Mtn revolver, which uses a tapered 4"bbl and round butt, 6 shot cylinder, w/ a cool chamfer on the forward cylinder edge. Mine is 2 oz lighter than a 4" L-frame 686 (empty)! Carries nicely in L-frame holsters. Black on Black ramp/blade sights, no bright space plastic.
Mine may be first production run and I'll never sell it.
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