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Old November 29, 2009, 02:52 PM   #1
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Tommy guns?

Hi
I have found quite a few Thompsons around here for about 250$ a piece fully automatic.

Are they worth buying?
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Old November 29, 2009, 03:04 PM   #2
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I would definitely buy for $250, worst thing that could happen your out a couple of bucks.
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Old November 29, 2009, 04:11 PM   #3
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in pakistan... make sure they aren't cheap remakes... i know Khyber Pass made a lot of the british weapons...
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Old November 30, 2009, 02:02 AM   #4
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Heck yeah.
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Old November 30, 2009, 08:51 AM   #5
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I would defintley hoop on that! im a big collector of old guns . I love old wwII guns an what not!!
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Old November 30, 2009, 10:03 AM   #6
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Absolutely!

Also if you'd like to send some "non working"(read bolt in different box) or C&R (age?) Tommy guns to the states as gratuity for all the advice you get here, we would be must appreciative.

Fakes or not, you should buy it.
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Old November 30, 2009, 10:56 AM   #7
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Worthwhile? Oh, yes.

Firepower! , I'm aware that you have a number of full-auto firarms, but I don't know if you're more of a collector or shooter.

You're probably aware of the differences in the various models of the Thompson Submachine Gun. In case you're not, the two most common types are the Model 1928 series and the M1 series. The '28 has the actuator (bolt handle) on top, while the M1 and M1A1 have it on the right side. The '28s are usually more nicely made, with better finish and more finely machined parts. Buttstock is push-button removeable, the barrel is usually finned, and there is frequently a Cutts Compensator fitted. A nice Lyman adjustable sight is common. The fore end may be a vertical pistol grip or a horizontal type. Late-production '28s may be have the dull phosphate (Parkerized) finish, a smooth barrel with or without compensatror, and a simple L-shaped rear sight. A 1928 may have been produced for the civil market OR the military.

The M1 and M1A1 were introduced during WWII to speed production. They were originally all military guns, but many hit the civilian market after WWII and the Korean War. The machining and finish appear much cruder, buttstock is bolted in place, barrel is smooth, and there's no comp. The fixed rear sight and horizontal foreend are standard.

On the US market, a '28 model in decent condition usually demands a FAR higher price than a decent M1-type. The latter have greatly climbed in value in recent years, though.

Far less common Thompson Guns are the Model 1921 and the 1927 semiautomatic carbine. Their scarcity leads to much greater value. The original, short-barrel 1927 should not be confused with the late prodction guns from the 1970s and afterward.

The US market is ruled by the fact that no machine gun of any marque not registered before May 1986 may be legally transferred to a private individual. This very finite number of full auto guns ensures that the buying/selling prices just keep on climbing. No matter that a huge stash of collectors' item machine guns is located somewhere, they may not be sold on the open market in the US, even without regard to other import restrictions.

Frankly, I have no idea of the value of a TSMG outside the US. You must be aware that there are few places where a private individual may own machine guns. From your earlier posts, I know you have, or have had, some other very valuable full auto items. In MY mind, a TSMG in good condition would be worth more money than several Kalashnikovs. At around $250 USD each, one --or several-- would be a great buy. Understand, though, that this is the viewpoint of a sport shooter or collector. The TSMG is/was a first generation SMG. Thompsons are compllicated (compared to an AK or Sten Gun,) very heavy to carry in the field, and demand significant maintenance. Several other full-auto arms are far more suitable for combat use in today's world.

All the above is based upon the available guns being genuine, US-produced Thompson Guns. Firepower!, I hope my over-simplified remarks are not offensive to you.

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Old November 30, 2009, 11:11 AM   #8
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a photo from sometime in the last 20 years, Viet Nam...that makes us fans of
historic arms weep. Also as a tax payer, these weapons were purchased by the american public...only to be given away and ultmately wasted.

if you have a chance to buy an original...by all means do so and give it a good home.
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Old November 30, 2009, 12:08 PM   #9
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That picture hurts to look at. Words escape me. Why?


I always wanted a Thompson. I would gladly take a semi-auto but those stupid 16" barrels are the deal breakers for me. Totally ruin the compactness and look of the gun. Maybe a SBR someday.
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Old November 30, 2009, 02:08 PM   #10
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Venom, Kahr Arms makes factory SBR's that are only a little more expensive then the regular semi autos....and has the look and compactness you wish.
search "SBR" on gunbroker, and you will usually see one for sale.
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Old December 2, 2009, 05:25 AM   #11
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Thank you guys for your responses. And specially thanks to Johnny for a detailed overview of the weapon.

I have decided that I will go down personally to inspect the weapons. I have asked my delear to arrange 2 piece with detachable stock options. I think a pair would be nice to own as a piece of history.

The only problem is that 45ACP bullets are not cheap in this part of the world. The cheapest ones from Philippines is for $1 a piece.
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Old December 2, 2009, 12:41 PM   #12
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The only problem is that 45ACP bullets are not cheap in this part of the world. The cheapest ones from Philippines is for $1 a piece.
WHOA!

At that price you'll exceed the cost of the gun in one day.
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Old December 2, 2009, 12:47 PM   #13
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That's about what people were paying for .380 10 months ago
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Old December 2, 2009, 04:48 PM   #14
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Yeah, but I bet not many people were doing mag dumps with their Macs at that price.
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