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Old May 23, 2008, 12:23 PM   #1
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Another "Name that gun" - Planet of the Apes

I caught the tail end of the Planet of the Apes last night and saw rifles that did not look familiar. I'm wondering if these were real production rifles or if they were something the Hollywood prop guys just made up. They were clip fed autoloaders with a full lenght stock. They kind of looked like someone took an M1 carbine and changed out the stock, but the magazine looked larger than an M1 magazine.

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Old May 23, 2008, 02:06 PM   #2
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thats exactly what they were. They also had some kind of restocked SMGs. APparently only 2 of the prop guns actually shot, both M1s. everything else was a dummy.
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Old May 23, 2008, 02:49 PM   #3
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Exactly; they also made some SMGs up along the same lines by putting some Madsen M50s into wooden furniture.
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Old June 25, 2008, 12:50 AM   #4
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Kind of cool...

...this would be a nice kit:

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/C...ro_beneath.htm
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Old June 17, 2014, 09:53 AM   #5
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FIRST "POTA" MOVIE 1968: M1 Carbines in custom wooden stocks. Stembridge Gun Rentals supplied the rifles. Fox's prop dept made the stocks. The stocks split or shattered up around the receiver/slide every time the rifles were fired. The wood was very thin around that area of the stock. Rumor has it that 12 were made but only a few survived. We never see more than 7 on screen at any time.

2ND FILM "BENEATH" 1970:

• M1 Carbines in NEW and improved cast aluminum stocks, with stiletto bayonets. No more shattering and splitting when live-firing. Rumor has it that 12 were made for the sequel as well.

• two types of dummy versions were made of the BENEATH carbines: wooden with die-cast receivers for background, and urethane resin or hard rubber for stunts.

• Madsen M50 SMG (also rented from Stembridge and were also used in DIAMONDS are FOREVER and STAR TREK) These M50's also had cast aluminum stocks. Rumor has it only 3 were made; two meant to fire live ammo, one as a dummy (no ejection port).

APEMANIA.COM makes POTA replica stocks to fit AIRSOFT M1 CARBINES, but they can be converted to fit .30 Cal M-1 Carbines as well as Ruger 10-22's.
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Old June 20, 2014, 07:30 AM   #6
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I wonder if they had relieved the area around the op rod if it would have withstood live fire better. From the photos it looks like there's too much metal to wood contact.
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Old June 21, 2014, 08:44 AM   #7
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The biggest problem with the original screen-used wooden POTA stocks was that unreasonably thin area of wood just in front of the reciever/slide.

They could have reinforced it from the inside with some thin angle hair fiber glass which would have certainly resisted fracturing and splitting, but back in the day movie props were dusposable items. They only needed to last long enough to get through a few weeks of filming. If one broke during a scene, they'd just swap it out with a good one.

They supposedly made twelve for the first movie. You only see 7 on screen at any one time, so there were a few spares.
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Old July 9, 2014, 01:40 AM   #8
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I can't help but channel Rob Schneider's classic SNL bit here, "CORN-NELIUS...making prog-gress!"



Within the month we should have a finished prototype ready for the range!

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Old July 18, 2014, 02:07 PM   #9
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Going to the range next week to test fire it with the 10/22.
Also going to compair the fit to an M1 carbine next week as well.
So exciting! Stay tuned...

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