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Old September 21, 2009, 07:12 PM   #1
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Ballistic Tips vs. Deer

Has anyone here ever taken a deer using Nosler Ballistic Tip Bullets? How did they work, where they effective? I ask because I plan on going deer hunting soon. The rifle I am going to take really likes these bullets. I have never used them on big game. So some input would be helpful.
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Old September 21, 2009, 07:17 PM   #2
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New manufacture NBTs work great. I have a problem with some pretty old ammo ~ 10 years or more, that failed to open. I recovered the game, but it was a through and through. After a little research I learned I wasn't the only one to have that problem.

I have found them devastating for both broadside and neck shots on White Tail. I would hesitate to use NBT to hunt feral boars unless I planned to go exclusively with head and neck shots.
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Old September 21, 2009, 08:03 PM   #3
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I have used them on texas deer in 30-06 150gr. and 243 in 70gr.

The 06 worked great but the 243 faild to enter the chest on a broadside shoulder shot at around 250 yds.
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Old September 21, 2009, 08:06 PM   #4
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I have some original "Solid Base" that were like solids. As mentioned, the recent NBT's are accurate and deadly.
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Old September 21, 2009, 08:08 PM   #5
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What cartridge are you using? My experience is based on the 280.
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Old September 21, 2009, 08:34 PM   #6
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I've taken about 15 or 16 deer.......

with my .243, using the 95 grain Ballistic Tip, and all of them fell in their tracks except one, and it ran about 35 yards before collapsing. KILLER bullets.
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Old September 21, 2009, 09:45 PM   #7
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2Rugers says:

"I have used them on texas deer in 30-06 150gr. and 243 in 70gr.

The 06 worked great but the 243 faild to enter the chest on a broadside shoulder shot at around 250 yds."

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That is why you don't use a 70 grain pill. I gotta ask, what were you thinkin'?
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Old September 21, 2009, 10:47 PM   #8
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Ballistic tips

My son and I have used Combined Technologies (Nosler & Winchester) Winchester Silver Ballistic Tip ammo for deer here in South Alabama for several years. Calibers are 30-06, 308 and 300 Win Mag. We have had no problems and none of the deer shot have traveled more than a few yards.
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Old September 21, 2009, 10:55 PM   #9
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The smaller caliber, and especially the lighter BT bullets are thin jackets meant for varmints, such as the 70 gr. in .243. The heavier weight for caliber BT bullets and those for larger calibers are thicker jacketed for big game.
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Old September 22, 2009, 01:09 AM   #10
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Old September 22, 2009, 01:13 AM   #11
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I used Winchester Ballistic Silvertips almost exclusively in my .30/06, 7mm-08, and 7mm Rem Mag for everything from deer to elk with great results.
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Old September 22, 2009, 03:31 AM   #12
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Deer and antelope,I use them in my .257 (115 gr)with very good results.I suppose if I wanted a little more penetration,I could try an Accu-bond.It is a whack them in the slats bullet(in small calibers).I would not try shots that require serious penetration,but ribs to heart lung it performs well.

I load the Accubonds in my 30-338 and my .375
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Old September 22, 2009, 06:35 AM   #13
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ive used them in .270, .308, .30-06, and 7mm mag....seemed to work fine... not sure how much penetration or mushroom compared to other bullets.... only that they killed what I shot at with it.
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Old September 22, 2009, 07:29 AM   #14
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re:Bella

I have never used them for big game, yet. I have used the smaller ones for varmints with devastating rsults. In most of my rifles they are the most accurate hunting bullets. I wouldn't want to get by any bullet, but I imagine that a ballistic tip's wound would be ugly to say the least.
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Old September 22, 2009, 09:10 AM   #15
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I use Combined Technologies ballistic silvertips, in 150 grain through my .308 and they put a hole about the size of my little finger going in, and about the size of a tobasco bottle coming out. Pretty much everything in between is mulch. I Have also used them on hogs out to 100 yards. Deer or Hog, I have never had anything go over 30 yards from point of impact, with most of them dead where the stood.
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Old September 22, 2009, 09:44 AM   #16
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150 winchester silver tip

I have used this for years on deer and hogs with great outcomes. I have taken all head and neck shots though, untill last year. Shot a buck in the chest, came out the front shoulder whit a TON of damage to the meat. It's a great round from a 308, but it will cause a lot of trama to the meat. IMO
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Old September 22, 2009, 03:41 PM   #17
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I don't like them. Ballistic tipped bullets were designed for long-range shooting with hot calibers. The idea being that they would still open up at the terminal end of their trajectory. All of my hunting is going to be at less than 200 yds. That is too close for a BT bullet and you'll loose more meat than you need to by using one.
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Old September 22, 2009, 03:48 PM   #18
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I have used ballistic tips ( win supreme combined technology, rem accutips, NBTs) in .243 win, .260, 7mm-08 and .308 win.

I have nothing but great things to say about the bullet performance when the shot is a standard broadside shot into the ribs. They turn the lungs into a gooey mess and drop deer as well as any other fast opening soft point.

The only time I would be hesitant about them is in the .243 if you are faced with a quartering shot and have to get through a shoulder to get to the lungs.
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Old September 22, 2009, 05:01 PM   #19
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That is too close for a BT bullet and you'll loose more meat than you need to by using one.
Not my experience at all. Most of mine (maybe all) right around 100 yds (30-06), no more meat lost than any other same weight bullet.
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Old September 23, 2009, 03:05 AM   #20
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In modest calibers,the Ballistic tip will expand and perform at modest velocities.For example,a 150 gr BT would probably perform very well in a 7x57 at all practical ranges.But,once again,I would not ask it to do the same job as a Nosler partition .Its not a deep driving ,bone smashing bullet..

I would expect an Accubond to likely shoot about the same as a BT,giving a choice.It will penetrate deeper.On a deer with,say a 7mm mag,I think I'd use an Accubond to save some meat but with a .257 or a 7x57 or 308 I use a ballistic tip ,probably on the heavier side,like 115,150,165 repstively.

Then just accept you want to hit ribs just behind the foreleg.
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Old September 23, 2009, 08:37 AM   #21
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Well Water, I was thinking I would have a closer shot, (which would have made the .243 and 70 gr. BT a good choice).

As it were the second shot through the neck did the trick.

Certainly a learning experience.
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Old September 23, 2009, 10:20 AM   #22
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Bella It would help to know the cartrage your looking to use. I have shot a 308 with 125grain BT at around 3000fps and a 7rem mag 140gr at 3200fps. I can say with the larger slower bullets in a cartage they work very well. In the higher velocity liter bullets a baddly placed shot can destroy alot of meat. To light a bullet in a small round like the 243 is more of a critter bullet that deer, go to a 100gr. I now shoot the 139gr SST at 3300+ fps in the 7mm and still use the georga arms 125gr BT in the 308 . With good bullet placement i never have a deer run more than a few steps. Thats more than can be side for some bullets. I hate haveing to look for deer at dark.
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Old September 23, 2009, 04:41 PM   #23
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I myself dont prefer the Nosler BT because i have shot them and have seen deer and hogs lost to them. Shot a good buck a few years ago in the sholder at about 200 or so with a .270. Knocked the deer down he got up and ran, i waited close to an hour, went and looked where he was and there was hair, meat and very lil blood. No more blood found, a lil hair bout 20 yards from where he was hit and that was it. looked for the deer for bout 3 hrs, finally found him on the neighbors property, prolly a half mile from where i shot him.

When we skined him out the left sholder was all messed up, and the right there wasnt a peice of meat cut. After that i started shootin accubonds out of my 270 and 7mm RM. Have'nt had many deer or hogs run from either bullet, 20 or 30 yards a couple times
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Old September 23, 2009, 05:54 PM   #24
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I use 120 gn BT's in my 7x57 Mauser to good effect.
The 225 gn 35 cal ones I have used in my 35 Whelen flatly refuse to expand even when pushed at about 2,700 fps.
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Old September 23, 2009, 06:42 PM   #25
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Daggit, is it safe to assume you handload? The only factory 7x57 ballistic tip I have found is the Hornady Light Mags. Did I miss another ballistic tip?
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