Cannot post in the Classified section

mtang45 · September 4, 2009, 04:04 PM

Tried to post in the classified section today and I get a message that says I don't have permission. This is definately new. Do I have a cookie issue or issomething else going on?

mtang45 · September 4, 2009, 04:49 PM

Nevermind, I see the announcement at the top of the forum. Thats too bad; I've been a member since 2007 and my primary reason for coming here is to browse your classified section for cool toys. I also sell/trade lots of cool stuff that I don't need anymore. I'm not in the business, just a fanatical hobbyist. I usually don't have time to read and contribute in other forums so thus a low post count since you don't count postings in the marketplace.

Its your forum and your rules but I have to say I find it highly disappointing and somewhat disturbing that you are saying you don't want me around because of my one dimensional contribution to your website, and my inability to become a multi-faceted member by posting "meaningful" content.

No hard feelings here, just commenting on what I see as forced communal dynamics

**Brian Pfleuger** · September 4, 2009, 05:51 PM

A PM to a moderator may well gain you access.... we may refer to them as Sith Lords on occasion but they're actually pretty nice (usually)

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**Al Norris** · September 4, 2009, 08:06 PM

This sith lord says, sorry Charlie, but no.

The raison d'étre for TFL is to promote responsible gun ownership. That's been the policy here since day one. Hasn't changed.

Originally, the GunShow forums were started as a service to our members. Somewhere along the way, it become the primary (and for some, the only) reason for their presence at TFL.

If you find that disturbing, perhaps this will encourage you to join us. If not, c'est la vie!

**tyme** · September 5, 2009, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antipitas

The raison d'état for TFL is to promote responsible gun ownership.

Did TFL become a sovereign entity when I wasn't looking? Don't you mean raison d'être?

**Al Norris** · September 5, 2009, 11:03 AM

Pretty sad, when I'm better at dead languages than live ones...

**Mal H** · September 5, 2009, 04:00 PM

You mean like COBOL and BASIC?

mtang45 · September 5, 2009, 04:41 PM

OK, so to better understand your policy I just surveyed the last 10 postings in the Buy, Sell and Trade: Handguns forum and found 7 of the 10 do not meet your criteria for posting in the Classified sections. Just curious why the policy changed for me (when I used to be able to post); did I do something that offended someone? This is obviously not a well enforced policy, so what means is used to discriminate between those that can and those that cannot?

**Al Norris** · September 5, 2009, 06:04 PM

From Tuttle8's Announcement:

Quote:

As it states in all of the Gun Show subforums, you MUST have been a member for at least 30 days and have at least 25 posts to start a thread. For those that question why some still are able, it's due to some have slipped through the cracks or have been "grandfathered" in. For those that can, consider being fortunate. For others that can't, it's an easy solution. Hang out for a while in the discussion forums and get to know us as we can get to know you. After all, the discussion forums are the reason why we're here. The Gun Show forum is provided as a FREE service for those that have contributed to The Firing Line's cause.

... And PASCAL or MODULA, Mal.

September 4, 2009, 04:04 PM	#1
mtang45 Junior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 0	Cannot post in the Classified section Tried to post in the classified section today and I get a message that says I don't have permission. This is definately new. Do I have a cookie issue or issomething else going on? __________________ It is worth remembering these timeless words John Stuart Mill: "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse."

September 4, 2009, 04:49 PM	#2
mtang45 Junior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 0	Nevermind, I see the announcement at the top of the forum. Thats too bad; I've been a member since 2007 and my primary reason for coming here is to browse your classified section for cool toys. I also sell/trade lots of cool stuff that I don't need anymore. I'm not in the business, just a fanatical hobbyist. I usually don't have time to read and contribute in other forums so thus a low post count since you don't count postings in the marketplace. Its your forum and your rules but I have to say I find it highly disappointing and somewhat disturbing that you are saying you don't want me around because of my one dimensional contribution to your website, and my inability to become a multi-faceted member by posting "meaningful" content. No hard feelings here, just commenting on what I see as forced communal dynamics __________________ It is worth remembering these timeless words John Stuart Mill: "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse."

September 4, 2009, 05:51 PM	#3
Brian Pfleuger Staff Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Central, Southern NY, USA Posts: 14,475	A PM to a moderator may well gain you access.... we may refer to them as Sith Lords on occasion but they're actually pretty nice (usually). __________________ Still happily answering to the call-sign Peetza. --- You do not HAVE a soul. You ARE a soul. You HAVE a body. -C.S. Lewis He is no fool who gives what he can not keep to gain what he can not lose. -Jim Eliott, paraphrasing Philip Henry.

September 4, 2009, 08:06 PM	#4
Al Norris Staff Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 8,748	This sith lord says, sorry Charlie, but no. The raison d'étre for TFL is to promote responsible gun ownership. That's been the policy here since day one. Hasn't changed. Originally, the GunShow forums were started as a service to our members. Somewhere along the way, it become the primary (and for some, the only) reason for their presence at TFL. If you find that disturbing, perhaps this will encourage you to join us. If not, c'est la vie! __________________ Listings of the Current 2A Cases: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=416973

September 5, 2009, 11:03 AM	#6
Al Norris Staff Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 8,748	Pretty sad, when I'm better at dead languages than live ones... __________________ Listings of the Current 2A Cases: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=416973

September 5, 2009, 04:00 PM	#7
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern VA Posts: 14,074	You mean like COBOL and BASIC?

September 5, 2009, 04:41 PM	#8
mtang45 Junior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 0	OK, so to better understand your policy I just surveyed the last 10 postings in the Buy, Sell and Trade: Handguns forum and found 7 of the 10 do not meet your criteria for posting in the Classified sections. Just curious why the policy changed for me (when I used to be able to post); did I do something that offended someone? This is obviously not a well enforced policy, so what means is used to discriminate between those that can and those that cannot? __________________ It is worth remembering these timeless words John Stuart Mill: "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse."