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Old August 26, 2009, 07:31 PM   #1
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white deer

check out this website for the nature reserve thats home to over 100 pure white deer http://senecawhitedeer.org/
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Old August 26, 2009, 08:03 PM   #2
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My dad was stationed there in early 1960's. I have pictures of those deer's ancestors on some slides here. I need to make some regular pictures from the slides, but they're expensive!

I didn't know that they still had them there. From what my dad told me, there weren't nearly that many back then.

Very cool!

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Old August 26, 2009, 10:00 PM   #3
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White or Albino?

If they are truly white, which by what I see, they are not, would be rare. Albinos are not all that uncommon. I think the only reason you see great number there is an army depot, is that acsess was probably limited and with no natural pedators were able to keep there gene pool close and reproduce. But unless in an arctic total snow enviroment, this is a bane for the normal whitetail gene pool. Albino deer have poor natural camoflage and do not survive well in a real world enviroment. Even if completely still, they are easly spotted, unlike it's normal color. Although kinda cool by a of freak nature, I don't think they should be protected, rather culled, to keep the gene pool as pure as possible.
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Old August 27, 2009, 06:59 AM   #4
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I am all for the culling of any and all albinos of any specie. Even if the offspring of an albino parent appears normal, it still can have "recessive" genes and screwed up chromosomes... They then pass these from a normal looking offspring, now parent, to the rest of the gene pool. Basically they are peeing in the gene pool by protecting them.

Florida doesn't have any albino protection remarks in the rules...
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Old August 27, 2009, 07:37 AM   #5
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I ran into a guy last fall who had just shot an albino doe. Pretty cool. He said the farm he hunts on has lots of pie bald (sp? - brown with white patches) but it was the first all albino he'd seen.

While rare, they aren't special in my opinion and certainly don't need protected.
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Old August 27, 2009, 08:44 AM   #6
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Well, someone way back when thought they were special.

I'm like you guys, but I think it's normally a self-correcting problem. Predators can see them very well, so they don't generally live to long in the wild.

Considering that these deer have been in an enclosure for at least 45-50 years (see my post above), I'd say they aren't endangering the general gene pool of that area. Considering that they're still alive, breeding, and apparently healthy, then I'd say they aren't much of an issue.

If they had diseases that could be passed through the fence, then that'd be a different story.

They're sort of unique, so appreciate them for what they are. I'm not one to advocate killing what I see as fairly tame deer that were raised in an enclosure, simply because they're white.

If found in the wild, and they're in season, I'd shoot one as quick as any other deer, but that's really not the issue in this case.

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Old August 27, 2009, 09:30 AM   #7
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Several years ago, the Army Ammunition Plant, here in McAlester, Oklahoma was home to quite a few "White Fallow" deer.
There was a pretty good sized herd of them on the base, and they were illegal to shoot during their draw hunts.
They were pretty cool to look at, but over the years they have all but disappeared, probably due to the already mentioned inability to hide from predators.
These were not albino deer, but I do agree with others about keeping the albinos out of the gene pool.
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Old August 27, 2009, 11:18 AM   #8
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WBB,

I don't think these deer are albinos. They have dark colored eyes, and a true albino would be pink if I'm not mistaken.

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Old August 27, 2009, 12:03 PM   #9
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I wouldnt shoot a white deer myself.... there is a white buck that lives on the Casino land here.... and there is a doe that is white with a few brown spots..... of course they are protected there from hunting.... they have been seen there for at least ten years now.
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