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Old August 17, 2009, 11:57 AM   #1
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Remington 597 Recall...Do Not Use Your Remington 597

Got this this AM

PRODUCT SAFETY WARNING
AND RECALL NOTICE

17 HMR AMMUNITION AND MODEL 597® HMR SEMI-AUTOMATIC



DO NOT USE REMINGTON 17 HMR AMMUNITION IN SEMI-AUTOMATIC FIREARMS.

DO NOT USE THE REMINGTON MODEL 597 HMR SEMI-AUTOMATIC RIFLE.

Remington has been notified by its supplier of 17 HMR ammunition that 17 HMR ammunition is not suitable for use in semi-automatic firearms. The use of this ammunition in a semi-automatic firearm could result in property damage or serious personal injury.

If you have a semi-automatic firearm chambered for 17 HMR ammunition, immediately discontinue use of Remington 17 HMR ammunition. If you have any Remington 17 HMR ammunition that you wish to return to Remington contact the Remington Consumer Service number below. Do not return the ammunition to the dealer. Remington will provide you with a $10.00 coupon for each complete box of 50 rounds of Remington branded 17 HMR ammunition you return to Remington. This coupon will be good for the purchase of any Remington ammunition at your local dealer.

In light of the ammunition manufacturer’s notice, it is very important that you immediately stop using your Remington Model 597 17 HMR semi-automatic rifle. If you own a Remington Model 597 17 HMR semi-automatic rifle and wish to return it to Remington please contact the below Remington Consumer Service Number. In return for your Remington Model 597 17 HMR synthetic stock semi-automatic rifle, Remington will provide you a coupon valued at $200.00 good for the purchase of a replacement Remington firearm. If you have a laminate stock Remington Model 597 17 HMR semi-automatic rifle, Remington will provide you a coupon valued at $250.00 good for the purchase of a replacement Remington firearm. Remington will also reimburse you for the actual postage to return your Model 597 17 HMR semi-automatic rifle to Remington.

Please allow up to 6 weeks after Remington receives your Model 597 17 HMR semi-automatic rifle or your Remington branded 17 HMR ammunition for the appropriate coupons to arrive. Instructions for redemption of the coupons will be contained on the coupon.

For any consumer questions or instructions on how to return of your Model 597 17 HMR semi-automatic rifle or your Remington branded 17 HMR ammunition, please contact the Remington Consumer Service Department at 1-800-243-9700, Prompt #3.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

Safety First
Always observe the ten commandments of safe gun handling and wear approved eye and ear protection anytime you are shooting.


http://www.remington.com/safety/17_H...ce/default.asp

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Old August 17, 2009, 12:03 PM   #2
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I'm sure glad mine is a .22lr.I'd hate to get rid of it.
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Old August 17, 2009, 12:20 PM   #3
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WOW!

I'd like to know more about why the .17HMR is "not suitable for use in semi-automatic firearms". This is a tremendous recall and will cost Remington a very large amount of money. I think a more thorough explanation is warranted.

Ken, since you have a relatively unique perspective on the gun industry, if you could share any such information as you come across it, I (and probably many others) would greatly appreciate it.
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Old August 17, 2009, 12:33 PM   #4
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Instant collector's item.
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Old August 17, 2009, 03:41 PM   #5
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Now wish I had bought one...as was said "instant collector's item".
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Old August 17, 2009, 04:30 PM   #6
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I'm also wondering about why the .17HMR is non-semiauto friendly. Maybe a firing out of battery issue?

Also glad it isn't the .22LR; I quite enjoy mine as well.
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Old August 17, 2009, 04:58 PM   #7
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I'm also wondering about why the .17HMR is non-semiauto friendly. Maybe a firing out of battery issue?
One guess is that they didn't time the gun properly for the 17 HMR pressure curve.

Another is that different manufacturers load to vastly different pressure curves, same peak pressure, and timing that is good for one brand will not be good for another.

A third is that it is a BS CYA move for some reason.
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Old August 17, 2009, 05:51 PM   #8
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A third is that it is a BS CYA move for some reason.
Seems overly costly for BS CYA.
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Old August 17, 2009, 07:07 PM   #9
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Seems overly costly for BS CYA.
That's my thought as well, but I can;t think up any other reasons.
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Old August 17, 2009, 10:15 PM   #10
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Yep... case ruptures due to OOB issues... dirty chamber or weak (or improperly tensioned via the guide rods) recoil springs.

Lots of folks have .17 597s that run fine, but they are careful to properly maintain them. I never had an issue with the one I owned, but I just like my converted 10/22M better.
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Old August 18, 2009, 10:23 AM   #11
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I have a basic synthetic stock 597 .17HMR I bought new exactly two years ago for $399.98 (and have no record of ever receiving the advertised $50 rebate from Remington for which I submitted all of the correct paperwork). As I read the recall notice, my "unsafe" rifle is now worth 50% of its purchase price to Remington as scrap. And that value is a coupon good only toward the purchase of another Remington firearm, which means the "true" value in real dollars is probably about 25% of original cost. Given my experience with Remington's redemptions, I should be patient for six or more weeks? Somehow the "instant collector" option is beginning to look more appealing.

For what it's worth, a poster identified as "Remington-KC" put the notice up on several other forums. According to him, all .17HMR ammo regardless of brand comes from a single manufacturer (unidentified but NOT Remington), which advises .17HMR should not be shot in any autoloader.
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Old August 18, 2009, 01:17 PM   #12
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Will Remington sell barrels so they can be converted to 22WMR?
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Old August 18, 2009, 02:28 PM   #13
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I have a 597 heavy barrel laminated stock 17 hmr. I find it amazing that it listed msrp on their site for around $600.00, but they want me to hand it over for $250? Believe I'll keep mine also, thanks very much!
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Old August 18, 2009, 09:53 PM   #14
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I bet everyone is not going to be checking the used racks of their local stores for 17 HMR 597s to get them before they are all gone.

Who knows, years from now they could be the equivalent of the Ruger 3-Screw. (Probably not, but it's a funny idea.)
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Old August 19, 2009, 03:39 AM   #15
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It does' seem a bit low for "customer satisfaction" on the 200/250 end!!
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Old August 19, 2009, 11:59 AM   #16
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I sent Remington an email Monday expressing my dissatisfaction with the terms of the recall and offered instead to exchange my 597-.17 for a bolt action in that caliber. I received a response today stating the program is voucher only and the values allegedly were set based on the Gun Values Blue Book. I responded with an acknowledgement that I received their email and find the terms unacceptable. I want another Remington? In which lifetime? Guess I'll just hold onto it until someone wants to take it off my hands at a reasonable price or it grows whiskers in the gun safe. In the meantime I'll start a search for a replacement in .17HMR from another manufacturer. I love my Savage Mako in .22LR...and I understand there's one in .17HMR as well.
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Old August 19, 2009, 12:11 PM   #17
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thats hilarious.... i was just looking into getting one of those. but i didnt want to pay an arm and a let for a semi-auto 17hmr.

memphisjim, if you get a savage, make sure to get the 93r17 with a bull barrel and accutrigger... dont go with the walmart special. the accuracy is MUCH better
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Old August 19, 2009, 03:32 PM   #18
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Maybe the CYA is the reason. Some poor chaps gun blows up, and Remington says we offered you a fraction of the value of your gun. You should have took us up on our measly offer I've had a real eye opener from remington over this. lesson learned I wonder if this is what we can expect from all the companies affiliated with remington. I think freedom group or something. seen on their website that they just bought Dakota arms.
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Old August 19, 2009, 06:51 PM   #19
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I spoke to remington today and the guy on the phone said the same about the ammo all being made by the same manfacturer. He also said that the ammo manufacturer stated that the ammo is unsafe for all semi auto 17hmr. Also he said it is a good show of faith they are offering anyone 200.00- 250.00 for a gun that isnt broken. And there are no plans to fix the problem whatever it may be. The coupon is forcing you to buy another Remington product. My free shipping return label and box should be here soon but I dont know if I should hold onto it and maybe get some more money out of a possible instant collectors item
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Old August 20, 2009, 04:58 PM   #20
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As my 597 is still within warranty and they cant fix it. They can send me one in 22 mag
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Old August 20, 2009, 08:28 PM   #21
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racin: we have to have a united front with Remington -- just say "no." Surely to God, they won't sacrifice Remington's goodwill and the trust so many us have put into their products over the years with a recall "on the cheap" as they currently propose.
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Old August 20, 2009, 09:50 PM   #22
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I don't understand why they don't do the simple and logical solution. You have to send the rifle back to Remington. Why don't they just forget about the coupon deal (sort of like a stupid tax rebate, why not just reduce the tax?) and send people another rifle back equal to the retail price of what the consumer paid? Sounds like a win-win to me.
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Old August 23, 2009, 11:10 AM   #23
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There's a remmy rep on rimfire,really no help though,it was said the remmy was giving the blue book on those 597 17hmr which i think is crazy these days whats a blue book anymore
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Old August 25, 2009, 10:41 AM   #24
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remington can KMA

Ok finally got through to remington. I told them I wanted to return my 597 which is 8 months old and under warranty. You guessed it, they said warranty does not apply as it is a ammo problem. There was a time when the name Remington ment something. Those days are gone. I will never buy any remington product again, not ammo, firearm, Nada. I'm seriously considering taking a carbide saw to the several Remingtons I own including the XCR in 375 I bought last year.
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Old August 25, 2009, 10:58 AM   #25
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You would think that for the $200 they are sending back, they could fix the rifle? Make it so that the 17HMR doesn't blow anyone up? Any idiot can manufacture AR15 parts in their basement but Remington can't fix a rifle to properly shoot 17HMR?
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