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Old July 13, 2009, 10:53 PM   #1
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Best 1911 pistol?? Kimber or ......

Okay, I hope this hasnt been posted recently... I have the new catalog for the Kimber's and am ready to buy probably my last handgun for a while. I have two glocks (19,26) and I want the 1911 for home defense, shooting range fun, and to have just a cool custom gun. What kimber do you suggest, or other custom 1911
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Old July 13, 2009, 11:08 PM   #2
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I like my Kimber... extremely accurate and a great trigger. It's an older Classic Custom Target that I bought used in LN condition a couple years ago... made in the late 90's. Very accurate, nice large sights, feels good in hand. Looked at the S&W ones but the triggers on the couple I looked at felt a little heavy and actually gritty.

Don't have any commentary on Springfields or the "true" custom 1911s... never owned any. Can only tell you I like my Kimber.
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Old July 13, 2009, 11:43 PM   #3
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let me make it more realistic and comparable.. what would you suggest for under 1500 dollars which seems to be a good price to pay for a first 1911..

i mean i would like one of those 4000 dollar bad boys, but i would be scared to shoot it without a 24 carat gold bullet..lol
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Old July 13, 2009, 11:45 PM   #4
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RIA Tactical. ~$600. Save the rest of your money for the ammo costs...you'll need it.
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Old July 14, 2009, 12:30 AM   #5
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I have two Kimbers, both 5" full size. A series one Classic Stainless and a TLE II Stainless. I am completely satisfied with mine, they both run great and are very accurate. Kimber has been getting some complaints of late, but I am not convinced they have more problems than other brands of 1911's percentage-wise. I have been seeing lots of posts concerning problems with Springfields also. Another brand to take a close look at is Dan Wesson, if I was in the market for another, I would consider them.
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Old July 14, 2009, 12:52 AM   #6
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Old July 14, 2009, 02:07 AM   #7
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Best 1911 pistol?? Kimber or ......
Depends on the $$.

I am going to say Colt; after all they started it and they still do it and do it well. (See above post; WA/Ken knows a bit about guns, sells them practically every day.)

That is for the around $1K price. Want to go up a bit? Then there are a few to look at: Fusion, Dan Wesson, Wilson Combat, Baer, Brown, Nighthawk, etc... You can easily double, or more, the price in a heartbeat with some of these.

Most folks are not going to out shoot a new Colt 1911; a very few yes, probably with a $2K - $4K gun and/or lots of range time. Unless you have the disposable funds and/or the desire/makings of a Bullseye shooter with lots of time/ammo on your hands, then go for it! You pay a lot of $$$ for those last couple of %s in accuracy.
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Old July 14, 2009, 06:02 AM   #8
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"Best" under $1500?

IMO&E: Springfield Armory TRP.

Second: Dan Wesson.
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Old July 14, 2009, 06:15 AM   #9
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Old July 14, 2009, 06:21 AM   #10
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Dan Wesson will make you forget about Kimber all together.

Much nicer pistol for the same, if not less money.
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Old July 14, 2009, 06:31 AM   #11
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Dan Wesson will make you forget about Kimber all together.

Much nicer pistol for the same, if not less money.
I'll agree unless you can find a 1st generation Kimber. I have a Gold Match from 1997 that is tremendous - in fact I sold my Dan Wesson and kept this one...
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Old July 14, 2009, 06:31 AM   #12
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+3 for the Springfield TRP 1911.
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Old July 14, 2009, 07:26 AM   #13
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If your budget is $1,500 or less...completely forget about the Kimber and go with a Dan Wesson 1911. This is coming from a previous (multiple) Kimber owner and I liked the ones I had...but they are overpriced for what you get.

Dan Wesson's, as of 2009 are free of MIM parts, which is more than Kimber can say. The hammer and beaver tails on my Kimbers (well over $1,000) had the mold marks that made them look like they came out of a plastic model set. My Pro CDP II had a piece of plastic for a mainspring housing....just ridiculous for a pistol of that price.

Straight from the factory, the slide would lock back with rounds still in the magazine. I called Kimber and they said "Oh yeah..it's a known issue...we'll send you a revised (filed down) slide stop and you can drop it in and it will be fine...." They sent me a revised one, I dropped it in...and it was fine....BUT IT'S A KNOWN ISSUE AND YOU LET IT OUT OF THE FACTORY? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? This is after they asked me if I had put 500 rounds through it...LOL. So there's a requirement to spend $200 on ammo for my $1,300 new pistol to possibly see if it's running right? Jeez, my 2 Fusion customs are built as tight as a bank vault and ran PERFECTLY right out of the box. Ditto for my STI.

Get a Dan Wesson for that kind of $. Also, for $1,500 you can also get a Fusion (www.fusionfirearms.com) and now you're REALLY talking!! (Owner/President of Fusion, Bob Serva, used to be owner and president of Dan Wesson, prior to CZ buying them)...visit their website and see what you get for your dollar there. I guarantee you'll not consider a Kimber again.
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Old July 14, 2009, 11:45 AM   #14
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I've got a Kimber 3" Stainless Ultra Carry that has been 100% flawless; but I
give credit where credit is due; as "the best" 1911 comes from Les Baer, in
the form of a 5" Thunder Ranch Special"~!
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Old July 14, 2009, 11:54 AM   #15
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I've got two Kimbers myself (Ultra Carry II and Pro CDPII) and like them both quite well, but for the money (actually less), I'd have to say I like my Dan Wesson CBOB better. If you want to play around in the semi custom market, for "around" that money, you can go with Fusion Firearms and get one the way you want it. They do excellent work, and have the best customer interraction that I've ever dealt with.
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Old July 14, 2009, 12:16 PM   #16
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Kimbers are BBQ guns for show.

Get a RIA and use the extra cash to buy the wife
a purse.
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Old July 14, 2009, 12:20 PM   #17
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Dan Wesson
Fusion
Sti
Colt

then
Ed Brown
Baer
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Old July 14, 2009, 12:27 PM   #18
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For the money a Kimber USA Shooting Team.
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Old July 14, 2009, 01:20 PM   #19
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Colt Combat Elite 1911

For less than a grand this is what you can have...

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Old July 14, 2009, 01:37 PM   #20
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For me, Dan Wesson is the best value out there
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Old July 14, 2009, 01:43 PM   #21
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My first 1911 experiences were two kimbers, both had a host of issues. If I could do it all over again I would have gone: 1) Colt 2) Dan Wesson 3) S&W, in that order.
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Old July 14, 2009, 04:50 PM   #22
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Dan Wesson will make you forget about Kimber all together.
Much nicer pistol for the same, if not less money.
Nah, not so much.

Lots of opinions here. Some based upon experience, some based on emotion. My experience:

Three Colts, trouble with two.
Four Paras, trouble with one.
One RIA, steaming pile.
Three Springfields, trouble with two.
Seven Kimbers, trouble with...none.

I've had Kimbers in pre-Series II, Series II, alloy frame, steel frame, internal extractor, external extractor, 3", 4", and 5".

Has my experience been atypical? Maybe. But these days if it doesn't say Kimber on the slide, I'm walking on by....
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Old July 14, 2009, 09:13 PM   #23
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I want the 1911 for home defense, shooting range fun, and to have just a cool custom gun. What kimber do you suggest, or other custom 1911
There's nothing custom about the Kimber. It is a production gun, not even considered semi-custom. The only custom gun I know you can get for less than $1,500 are some models of Fusion. Dan Wesson CBOB or Pointman-7, Springfield TRP, Fusion, and the Colt Combat Elites are all good bets.

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Dan Wesson
Fusion
Sti
Colt

then
Ed Brown
Baer
Wilson
If you can find a Brown, Baer, or Wilson for less than $1,500, let me know. Well, maybe some used Baer models.
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Old July 14, 2009, 09:30 PM   #24
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For a true handcrafted target pistol S&W PC1911. For the best of the production line fighting 1911s Springfield Armory TRP.

Going down a price tier for a production line fighting 1911 it my choice would be a S&W SW1911 for about $900, second choice a Springfield Loaded. I'm just not the Kimber fan that I once was. Probably because of the 1) they call their production line pistols "custom shop" and 2) the 1 year warranty.
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