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Old July 13, 2009, 06:45 PM   #1
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Odd lever break open shotgun

I have a single shot single barrel 12 ga barreled action. There are no markings except for 8217 under neath the barrel. There might have been at one time , but it is reblued and polished off. That describes about 500 shotguns, Now heres the difference; the trigger guard comes around the left side of the action to form a thumb lever. Push down on the lever and the action opens. The gun has leaf springs for the trigger and action.The gun has a extractor. It has a exposed spur hammer to cock. The receiver is rather rounded, it reminds me of a Stevens tip up rifle. Its my cousins gun that belonged to his dad, and he wants to see if I can get some wood on it. I am looking for a starting point. I thank you for your efforts.....
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Old July 13, 2009, 07:51 PM   #2
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Old July 13, 2009, 08:27 PM   #3
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You've got what's known as a "side lever" shotgun, but without pictures, it'll be impossible to give you any further info. This system was used mainly on European shotguns, but a few American companies also made guns using it.
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Old July 13, 2009, 09:33 PM   #4
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Both Hopkins and Allen and Iver Johnson made shotguns you described. The Hopkins and Allen guns were made prior to Iver Johnson's Patent or an infringement on it.
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Old July 14, 2009, 09:58 AM   #5
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Thanks ,but it is not a falling block... When you push down on the "curled up ' trigger guard on the left side of the gun, the action breaks open, barrel on a hinge pin drops as in most regular single shots............
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Old July 14, 2009, 01:28 PM   #6
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Didn't say it was a Falling Block. I said your shotgun ( side lever in which the rear of the trigger guard curls up to act as a barrel break lever ) was made by both Hopkins and Allen and Iver Johnson. Which company made yours, don't have the foggiest with out pictures. How ever , pull the front wood, if there are no proof marks then it is US made by one of the aforementioned two. The US did not have a national proof house. Also if it has patent dates or patent pending then it's an Iver Johnson. As I stated before, either Hopkins and Allen made theirs prior to Iver Johnson patent, or infringed on the patent.

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Old July 14, 2009, 02:40 PM   #7
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Thanks for your reply. All thats on the gun are the numbers 8217...All I have is a reblued barreled action........ Just trying to do my cousin a favor and put some wood on it, it was his fathers, and everybody's long gone. I needed a starting point. Least I can tell him what it may be. Thanks again!
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