Your most robust rifle - Page 4

Blackops_2 · July 18, 2009, 06:12 PM

My 700 5R .308

johnwilliamson062 · July 18, 2009, 06:16 PM

no gunsmiths or factory parts ever available?
Wilderness: It would have to be a break action of some sort. Hell, maybe a ML.

Now, in a SHTF where I am more likely to defend myself against moderately well armed two leggers, probably a Saiga AK. IDK that has always been a hard one. I have chosen a mini, but I was not considering years of use without parts. I figure if I got there I would be picking up others firearms. Far more likely to just die than die b/c of a malfunction methinks.

Moloch · July 18, 2009, 07:18 PM

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no gunsmiths or factory parts ever available?
Wilderness: It would have to be a break action of some sort.

Well you can still have a 5-round magazine with a bolt action, and a mauser 98 bolt action has no parts which can break, much like a break-action.

MTMilitiaman · July 18, 2009, 08:01 PM

Depending on the environment I was in, I would ask for my AK or my M1A, and would be fine with either of them. Both would get as much maintenence as I could provide them, despite the conditions, and I am confident that it would be enough to keep either of them up an running. Neither of them has ever exhibited reliability problems or required a lot of effort on my part to keep running. So if I expected to be fighting mostly in built up urban areas, I would take the AK. Otherwise, I'd rock the M1A.

I am more confident with the M1A and would generally prefer it, but I know I can hit with the AK out to about 300 yards and so would be fine with it as well in most circumstances, and would actually prefer it if I thought I was going to have to go through a lot of doorways with guns on the other side.

I do own a bolt action, but either of these rifles has proven to be more reliable and robust, so the Rem M700 stays at home.

defcon5 · July 20, 2009, 03:03 PM

dpms lr.308 ap4

High Planes Drifter · July 20, 2009, 09:15 PM

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Don't forget to hang a condom over the barrel of your rifle to keep the weather out.

Ribbed , or no?

seant · July 21, 2009, 01:29 AM

I would pick my Winchester Model 70 stainless classic in 375 H&H. I have been hunting with this gun for over 10 years in Alaska. It has remained entirely reliable and accurate. It always puts meat in the freezer.

Hardcase · July 21, 2009, 12:26 PM

My M1903. It was sporterized at least 50 years ago. With a Lyman sight, I can hit anything I point at out to 400 yards. Second place would be my SKS because it's a little more portable.

GeauxTide · July 21, 2009, 02:01 PM

My Remington 1917 Enfield in .30-06.

rfleming · July 21, 2009, 02:20 PM

In a low threat density situation I would take a mauser controlled feed style bolt action, I am partial to CZ's in a "manly" caliber, .308, .30-06, or something like it. I love their European style Safari Classic in .375 H7H Mag.

In a high threat environment I would go with AK.

But frankly I think that a good bolt gun with decent BUIS and low power scope would do great...hence why I picked up a Savage Scout...I just wish it were controlled feed.

I have to say that I would also trust any of my Mosin's with my life without hesitation.

RT · July 21, 2009, 03:11 PM

Bolosniper · July 27, 2009, 09:01 PM

chuwee81 · July 27, 2009, 11:40 PM

GSUeagle:
I have the same set up (well, almost)

a m91/30 and newly acquired wasr2 (still looking for a good mag.....until next paycheck that is

)

Renny: that's a nice looking rig there.

Tucker 1371 · July 27, 2009, 11:46 PM

chuwee,

look at Apex Gun Parts, they have some black polymer tantal mags for about $20 a pop, fugly as all get out but they work very well and they're not Promags.

https://www.apexgunparts.com/product...c778b7474397f9

comancheblack2 · August 15, 2009, 05:10 PM

Finnish M39 The conditions the M39 was made for is about as harsh as you could find yourself in. Ammo is cheap, powerful and easy to come by.

Old Grump · August 15, 2009, 08:40 PM

Hands down my simple easy to operate and maintain single shot break action 308 H&R. Also happens to be my cheapest gun and my most accurate. Doesn't say much for my $2100 WBY does it?

ronl · August 15, 2009, 11:56 PM

Probably my M1A. It is pretty much a toss up between the 700 and the M1A, but the M1A would give me a little more firepower.

IdahoG36 · August 16, 2009, 12:06 AM

If I had my choice, based on experience, if i was headed into a harsh environment, I would take either an AK variant or an SKS for semi autos, and a Mosin Nagant M38 carbine if I had to carry a bolt gun.

gandog56 · August 30, 2009, 08:43 PM

Most robust rifle? Hard to say with all the milsurps I own. Should I maybe just go with my oldest that still shoots deadeye accurate? That would be my Austrian Steyr 8X56R.

longranger · August 30, 2009, 09:02 PM

1874 Shilo Sharps # 1 Sporter in 45-100.32" barrel half round half octogon LR MVA Soule tang sight with windage adjustable front sight.Most robust in my safe

Ozzieman · August 30, 2009, 09:11 PM

03-A3 and a 1911.

red caddy · August 30, 2009, 09:18 PM

Survival/combat? My Savage M-24 (.223 over 20 Ga.) get's the nod.

Waterengineer · August 30, 2009, 10:07 PM

Remington 700 BDL synthetic/stainless in 7mm Remington Ultra Mag.

handlerer · August 30, 2009, 10:34 PM

Easy, Weatherby MKV, every other rifle mentioned is a toy in comparison. Virtually unbreakable.

Colt46 · August 30, 2009, 11:15 PM

.45 colt so anything over 100 yards will be a stretch, but, with the right loadings, capable of taking anything on earth. It's easy to carry, lightweight, easy to shoot and fires faster than bolt actions.

July 18, 2009, 06:16 PM	#77
johnwilliamson062 Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 6,108	no gunsmiths or factory parts ever available? Wilderness: It would have to be a break action of some sort. Hell, maybe a ML. Now, in a SHTF where I am more likely to defend myself against moderately well armed two leggers, probably a Saiga AK. IDK that has always been a hard one. I have chosen a mini, but I was not considering years of use without parts. I figure if I got there I would be picking up others firearms. Far more likely to just die than die b/c of a malfunction methinks. __________________ $0 of an NRA membership goes to legislative action or court battles. Not a dime. Only money contributed to the NRA-ILA or NRA-PVF. Of course, you could just donate to the Second Amendment Foundation I was feeling pretty good, then I looked around and realized I am not swimming or on fire.

July 18, 2009, 08:01 PM	#79
MTMilitiaman Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2004 Location: NW Montana Posts: 1,875	Depending on the environment I was in, I would ask for my AK or my M1A, and would be fine with either of them. Both would get as much maintenence as I could provide them, despite the conditions, and I am confident that it would be enough to keep either of them up an running. Neither of them has ever exhibited reliability problems or required a lot of effort on my part to keep running. So if I expected to be fighting mostly in built up urban areas, I would take the AK. Otherwise, I'd rock the M1A. I am more confident with the M1A and would generally prefer it, but I know I can hit with the AK out to about 300 yards and so would be fine with it as well in most circumstances, and would actually prefer it if I thought I was going to have to go through a lot of doorways with guns on the other side. I do own a bolt action, but either of these rifles has proven to be more reliable and robust, so the Rem M700 stays at home. __________________ "...nothing says 'I WILL shoot every last one of you before you have time to reconsider your poor choices in life' like an AK." ~Dave R. Last edited by MTMilitiaman; July 18, 2009 at 08:20 PM.

July 21, 2009, 12:26 PM	#83
Hardcase Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Location: Sunny Southern Idaho Posts: 1,881	My M1903. It was sporterized at least 50 years ago. With a Lyman sight, I can hit anything I point at out to 400 yards. Second place would be my SKS because it's a little more portable. __________________ Well we don't rent pigs and I figure it's better to say it right out front because a man that does like to rent pigs is... he's hard to stop - Gus McCrae

July 27, 2009, 09:01 PM	#87
Bolosniper Member Join Date: September 10, 2005 Location: Dillon, Montana Posts: 70	__________________ Mike McIntyre VP Operations MPI Rifles, LLC [URL=http://www.mpirifles.com]

July 27, 2009, 11:40 PM	#88
chuwee81 Member Join Date: April 20, 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 47	GSUeagle: I have the same set up (well, almost) a m91/30 and newly acquired wasr2 (still looking for a good mag.....until next paycheck that is) Renny: that's a nice looking rig there.

July 18, 2009, 06:12 PM	#76
Blackops_2 Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,465	My 700 5R .308

July 20, 2009, 03:03 PM	#80
defcon5 Member Join Date: July 14, 2009 Posts: 17	dpms lr.308 ap4

July 21, 2009, 01:29 AM	#82
seant Senior Member Join Date: June 28, 2009 Posts: 113	I would pick my Winchester Model 70 stainless classic in 375 H&H. I have been hunting with this gun for over 10 years in Alaska. It has remained entirely reliable and accurate. It always puts meat in the freezer.

July 21, 2009, 02:01 PM	#84
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 2,922	My Remington 1917 Enfield in .30-06.

July 21, 2009, 02:20 PM	#85
rfleming Junior Member Join Date: November 12, 2006 Posts: 11	In a low threat density situation I would take a mauser controlled feed style bolt action, I am partial to CZ's in a "manly" caliber, .308, .30-06, or something like it. I love their European style Safari Classic in .375 H7H Mag. In a high threat environment I would go with AK. But frankly I think that a good bolt gun with decent BUIS and low power scope would do great...hence why I picked up a Savage Scout...I just wish it were controlled feed. I have to say that I would also trust any of my Mosin's with my life without hesitation.

July 21, 2009, 03:11 PM	#86
RT Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2000 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 2,188

July 27, 2009, 11:46 PM	#89
Tucker 1371 Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2008 Location: East TN Posts: 1,688	chuwee, look at Apex Gun Parts, they have some black polymer tantal mags for about $20 a pop, fugly as all get out but they work very well and they're not Promags. https://www.apexgunparts.com/product...c778b7474397f9 __________________ LCpl Williams, Evan T. USMC-R, 02-08-2010 ~ D Co, 4th CEB, Engineers UP!! OEF 21JUN-20SEP2011 REV. 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

August 15, 2009, 05:10 PM	#90
comancheblack2 Member Join Date: April 24, 2008 Location: TN Posts: 45	Finnish M39 The conditions the M39 was made for is about as harsh as you could find yourself in. Ammo is cheap, powerful and easy to come by.

August 15, 2009, 08:40 PM	#91
Old Grump Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2009 Location: Blue River Wisconsin, in a little hut in the woods Posts: 3,129	Hands down my simple easy to operate and maintain single shot break action 308 H&R. Also happens to be my cheapest gun and my most accurate. Doesn't say much for my $2100 WBY does it? __________________ Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power. The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern will, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. --Daniel Webster--

August 15, 2009, 11:56 PM	#92
ronl Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Posts: 663	Probably my M1A. It is pretty much a toss up between the 700 and the M1A, but the M1A would give me a little more firepower.

August 16, 2009, 12:06 AM	#93
IdahoG36 Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 2,328	If I had my choice, based on experience, if i was headed into a harsh environment, I would take either an AK variant or an SKS for semi autos, and a Mosin Nagant M38 carbine if I had to carry a bolt gun.

August 30, 2009, 08:43 PM	#94
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2006 Location: Mobile, Alabama Posts: 949	Most robust rifle? Hard to say with all the milsurps I own. Should I maybe just go with my oldest that still shoots deadeye accurate? That would be my Austrian Steyr 8X56R. __________________ Some people think I'm paranoid because I have guns. If I have guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

August 30, 2009, 09:02 PM	#95
longranger Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2008 Location: Buffalo WY Posts: 973	1874 Shilo Sharps # 1 Sporter in 45-100.32" barrel half round half octogon LR MVA Soule tang sight with windage adjustable front sight.Most robust in my safe

August 30, 2009, 09:11 PM	#96
Ozzieman Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 4,328	03-A3 and a 1911.

August 30, 2009, 09:18 PM	#97
red caddy Senior Member Join Date: August 17, 2009 Location: South West Florida Posts: 110	Survival/combat? My Savage M-24 (.223 over 20 Ga.) get's the nod.

August 30, 2009, 10:07 PM	#98
Waterengineer Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2006 Location: Aurora, CO and Palm Beach, FL Posts: 861	Remington 700 BDL synthetic/stainless in 7mm Remington Ultra Mag.

August 30, 2009, 10:34 PM	#99
handlerer Senior Member Join Date: October 5, 2007 Location: Billings,MT Posts: 277	Easy, Weatherby MKV, every other rifle mentioned is a toy in comparison. Virtually unbreakable.

August 30, 2009, 11:15 PM	#100
Colt46 Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2002 Location: Campbell Ca Posts: 216	my Legacy Puma '92 carbine .45 colt so anything over 100 yards will be a stretch, but, with the right loadings, capable of taking anything on earth. It's easy to carry, lightweight, easy to shoot and fires faster than bolt actions.