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Old June 29, 2009, 11:07 AM   #26
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What would you do?

As the Sgt. Major said in the movie WE WERE SOLDIERS":

"Gentlemen, prepare to defend yourselves......"

Which is about all you could do in that scenario you described. If your escape and evade was not successful, then you are forced to use your weapon as a last resort. When you dropped three or four of them, I'll bet they would head the other direction.

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Old June 29, 2009, 11:41 AM   #27
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Which is about all you could do in that scenario you described. If your escape and evade was not successful, then you are forced to se your weapon as a last resort. When you dropped three or four of them, I'll bet they would head the other direction.
Unfortunately for our boys, that wasn't the case in Somalia. Did you watch Black Hawk Down? I think they tried to based it very closely on what actually transpired. Things get really hairy when your enemy is not afraid to die.
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Old June 29, 2009, 01:36 PM   #28
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Old June 29, 2009, 05:30 PM   #29
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As the Sgt. Major siad in the movie WE WERE SOLDIERS":

"Gentlemen, prepare to defend yourselves......"
Best line from any movie ever.
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Old June 29, 2009, 05:52 PM   #30
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I like Dwight55's answer in post #3. IF you're ever in that situation, kill the leader(s) and the weaker followers will, or should, turn tail.

What would R. Lee Ermey do? Or a Delta Force operator? Or a Navy SEAL do?
They would all fight hard!
The other option is to not fight to win and possibly (probably) die ugly.....

The BEST advice is to AVOID that situation at all costs by being vigilant as possible and always being prepared for the unexpected without being paranoid. It's easier to avoid trouble than to get out of it.
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Old June 29, 2009, 05:54 PM   #31
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superhouse15 thinks the same as me , I would figure out how to blend in, maybe let a couple fly and turn your back to the mob, gun in the air,,Guess what? your the leader of the mob.. of course I would NEVER shoot into the air were just haveing fun here right?
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Old June 29, 2009, 05:56 PM   #32
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Old June 29, 2009, 05:59 PM   #33
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Call in for an air-strike !
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Old June 30, 2009, 07:10 AM   #34
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>Many moons ago, . . . there was a movie that starred some
> karate guru, . . . and at the end of the movie he is in a
> living room with a whole room full of bg's wanting his hide
> and all he has are his hands, feet, and a lever action rifle.
>
> He pops the "leader" right between the eyes (bg had on big
> ugly white rimmed '70's sun glasses).

Tom Laughlin in "The Born Losers" from 1967.

Think "Gran Torino" from the tie-dye and beads era. Well worth watching.
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Old June 30, 2009, 07:31 AM   #35
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superhouse15 thinks the same as me , I would figure out how to blend in, maybe let a couple fly and turn your back to the mob, gun in the air,,Guess what? your the leader of the mob.. of course I would NEVER shoot into the air were just haveing fun here right?
Great theory, but what if you don't readily blend in with the mob. Take for example, the lynchings of blacks by whites in the earlier part of the last century where mobs of whites attacked individuals and families of blacks. Now, if you are a black person, are you going to be able to try and blend in effectively?

Try blending in as the only one over 40 with a group of angry 20 something sports fans, or as the only male at a bridal shower after mentioning the bride to be has gained "a few pounds" and get back with us.
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Old June 30, 2009, 07:40 AM   #36
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Quote by Double Naught:

"Lynching of blacks by whites".......? What the heck does that have to do with this thread? C'mon double naught.........
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Old June 30, 2009, 07:54 AM   #37
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What does it have to do with this thread? Mob actions. The query was, how do you defend yourself against an angry mob. Many of the lynchings that I mentioned were undertaken by angry mobs who essentially went on search and find endeavors in order to have victims to lynch. The intended victims really didn't have much option of trying to "blend in" with their aggressors.

Come on Skydiver, get with your history.

The point is, that unless you are homogenous with the angry mob to begin with, blending in may not be a realistic option.
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Old June 30, 2009, 08:09 AM   #38
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Upgrade to an appropriate weapon for the situation.

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Old June 30, 2009, 08:28 AM   #39
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Dopuble Naught:

Quote: "C'mon Skydiver, get with your history"???

I didn't know we had to be a history buff to answer his question. But guess I will defer to you as resident genius on matters such as this.
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Old June 30, 2009, 11:44 AM   #40
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these days, a good citizen is as likely to be in the angry mob

Forewarned is forearmed. The most important thing to do is to follow the news, or know somebody who does and will give you the heads up.

Local sports game? Chance of a riot.
Immigration bill being voted on? Chance of a riot.
Other types of legislation that would have an immediate dramatic obvious effect on people's lives? Chance of a riot.
Big trial in the news and the verdict about to come down? Chance of a riot.
Some peaceable political assembly, and the government is making threatening them? Chance of a riot.

If the govt put a $30 tax on beer, or nationalizes all the 401k plans, or starts rounding up bankers or gun owners or whoever the villains of the moment are, you might be able to hear about the pre-riot a few hours before the rioters assemble and get worked up.
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Old June 30, 2009, 12:47 PM   #41
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If the govt put a $30 tax on beer, or nationalizes all the 401k plans, or starts rounding up bankers or gun owners
If any of that happens, I'll be rioting, myself.

(I might let them have the bankers, because I am not a banker.)





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Old June 30, 2009, 01:30 PM   #42
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$30. tax on beer?


Okay, thats going too far! That is just plain unamerican isn't it?
Count me in as I would join the riot if they did that.......
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Old June 30, 2009, 01:52 PM   #43
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Big trial in the news and the verdict about to come down? Chance of a riot.
What gun for Bernie Madoff sentencing?
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Old June 30, 2009, 04:06 PM   #44
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Geologist, what kind of concealment holster do you use for that? IWB?
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Old June 30, 2009, 06:27 PM   #45
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_W..._Army_Corporal)

I haven't been able to find the actual video of the attack/defence (I am Irish after all) but a pretty horrific story underneath it all.

I remember seeing the actual events on news. Quite bizarre feeling watching it.

Basically unarmed mob takes on armed people and wins.
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Old June 30, 2009, 07:01 PM   #46
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If running away is out of the question, I would move into an alley way where the numbers won't count for crap and you can easily take out the not-so-smart- ones who come down the alley intending you grave bodily harm. my
.02. interesting question
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Old June 30, 2009, 07:14 PM   #47
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Sounds to me like a simple math problem that can be solved as follows:

assuming 15rd mags..... that's 1 in the Glock 3 more somewhere on your person.....

that's 60rds ......... 60 rds / 20 mob members = 3 for each member............

1st to torso, 2nd to chest, 3rd to forehead

of course don't start shooting 'til you see the whites of their eyes!

... and oh yeah... I'm too old to run any darn where. It messes up my aim when I'm breathing heavy.
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Old June 30, 2009, 07:18 PM   #48
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I found a good solution.

Find a good choke point and invite a few friends for some "plinking".
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Old June 30, 2009, 07:26 PM   #49
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Rifles lots of rifles and ammo and if they don't like that and get in a really hairy mood they wont like the make shift flame thrower out of a pressure washer, gasoline, duckt tape, and road flares.
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Old June 30, 2009, 07:34 PM   #50
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I woould stand there with my Hello Kitty Spandex loincloth and spangled pasties with propellers, along with a sign that says, Free Kisses for Rioters.

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