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Old June 16, 2009, 02:05 PM   #1
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It is the 1800's, what are you carrying?

It is the 1800's, what are you carrying? Assuming you had the money to buy them. What would you carry out on the range? What would you carry in town? Would you be a gambler, a cowboy, a buisinesman, and while in a town that prohibitied the carrying of firearms like Dodge City, would you carry anyway.

Carried on me out on the range
I would go with Colt SA Army .45 71/2, Colt DA Thunderer .41 5 inch, Smith&Wesson DA .44 Russian 4 inch.

Long guns.
Winchester Model 1873
Double Barrel 10 guage not sawed off

If I was a gambler or cowboy or made my money in or did my business in the the saloons I would turn everything in Accept my Russian .44. I would keep that tucked away in a shoulder holster.
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Old June 16, 2009, 02:23 PM   #2
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Say... late 1882.

Well...first it depends on the decade and even year.

If it was 1882...

I'd have the finest money could buy.

A nice pair of S&W Schofields- Army surplus, of course.
Martini action sporting rifle ordered from England...in .50-90 or so...
Spencer repeating shotgun with an extended magazine in 10 bore.
And a nice 1873 Carbine special ordered in .45 Schofield to match my revolver.
(Then, to find some solid head brass.)

Two S&W .32's- one in each pocket.
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Old June 16, 2009, 02:25 PM   #3
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I'd be carryin' these durin' the mid 1860's... An 1863 Starr.44&1863 Sharps .54 Papercutter...an 1865 Rogers&Spencer.44&10ga muzzleloadin' SxS...along with a brase of Remington revolver 1861 Old Army- 1858 NMA




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Old June 16, 2009, 02:37 PM   #4
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How about a nice engraved, pearl-handled .32 Remington-Rider magazine pistol for the boot.
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Old June 16, 2009, 02:39 PM   #5
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In 1882, I would be carring this. 45 Colt of course.
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Old June 16, 2009, 02:45 PM   #6
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1882?

S&W No. 3 in either .44 Russian or .45 Smith & Wesson.
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Old June 16, 2009, 02:50 PM   #7
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It doesn't have to be 1882. You can pick your period between 1800-1899.
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Old June 16, 2009, 05:42 PM   #8
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I'd have a brace of Walkers on my hips, an 1861 Navy tucked in my belt an 1860 Army in my shoulder holster and an 1874 Sharps .45-70 in my saddle holster! Just call me Josey!
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Old June 16, 2009, 06:41 PM   #9
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I'd have a brace of Walkers on my hips, an 1861 Navy tucked in my belt an 1860 Army in my shoulder holster and an 1874 Sharps .45-70 in my saddle holster! Just call me Josey!
Better get ya a strong horsey to tote all that gear cuz you ain't gonna walk far carrying all that heavy hardware.
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Old June 16, 2009, 08:37 PM   #10
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I'd be carrying a Dragoon, an 1860 Army, and an 1860 Henry rifle, any time after 1860-onwards.
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Old June 16, 2009, 09:34 PM   #11
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Mine would be around the late 1860's.
Cowboy through with the war but keeping a few trinkets from my service.

Remington New Model Army .44 Caliber maybe even have it converted to them new fangled .46 caliber catridges too.

Henry 1860 or one of them new 1866 Winchesters in .44 caliber for keepin them Yotes at bay from the cattle.

A Sharps paper patched .54 caliber would come in handy when it's bigger than what my Henry can handle.

A nice SXS 12 bore would be nice when the birds are a plenty.
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Old June 16, 2009, 11:22 PM   #12
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1880??? I've still got the pair of '61 Navies and Henry rifle that I had when the late unpleasantness ended. Returned home & restarted my blacksmithing business. Got elected Justice of the Peace so I keep the pistols & rifle handy just in case. For huntin and bringing home the meat, a 10 ga double and a new Sharp's .50 do the trick.
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Old June 17, 2009, 04:00 AM   #13
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And a nice 1873 Carbine special ordered in .45 Schofield to match my revolver.
It's your fantasy but that's a never was. Cartridge rim was too small for the extractor to grip.

In the 1840's I'd have a Hawken rifle, a sharp knife and maybe a good steel hawk.
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Old June 17, 2009, 04:56 AM   #14
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The Century has just turned. It is 1801. I'm walking below the Allegheny escarpment in the Wyoming Valley in Pennsylvania.
I'm carrying a 20 gauge PA style flintlock fowler; my possibles are both shot and round balls. I carry on my left hip a loaded .50 cal flintlock trapper pistol. On my right hip hangs a knife.
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Old June 17, 2009, 05:39 AM   #15
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The 19th century saw an explosion of firearms technology. We entered that century with flintlock muzzleloaders and exited it with smokeless powder, metallic cartriages, and repeaters.
By contrast, gun developement in the 20th century pretty much flatlined. Here we are in 2009 and we still shoot metallic cartriages loaded with smokeless powder ignited by a percussion primer. Some of the most popular gun designs of today were around when cars were started with cranks and airplanes had double wings.
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Old June 17, 2009, 09:33 AM   #16
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"It doesn't have to be 1882. You can pick your period between 1800-1899."

OK. I pick.... 1883.
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Old June 17, 2009, 10:20 AM   #17
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Old June 17, 2009, 10:52 AM   #18
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It's your fantasy but that's a never was. Cartridge rim was too small for the extractor to grip.
That's why I said the Schofield round rather than .45 Colt...it has a larger diameter rim, and I doubt it would have had any problems.

However, most makers of that brass and ammunition today have made the rim diameter to the same size of that of the .45 Colt simply to get around having to buy more equipment to make the rim larger- it was just cheaper to shorten a .45 Colt case and put the "45 Schofield" headstamp on it.

Unfortunately, I haven't spent the money to buy an actual box of .45 Schofield rounds of the time...which may not have been as consistent as say, a box of .44 WCF...I don't know.

Starline definitely has the large rim...and I *think* Black Hills has the Colt size rim.
(I haven't shot any Black Hills, so I can't say that as fact...but I do use Starline in this caliber.)

Eh, it was a good thought though, and a provoking mind exercise.
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Old June 23, 2009, 06:07 AM   #19
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.36 Calibre Muzzle Loader

Other than that, you tell me what I have. Pics are up at fliker at http://www.flickr.com/photos/39098267@N02/3595835696/

Barrel marked WMH is 38" long. 7/8" straight, not swamped, .36 calibre, dual triggers, tiger stripe maple half stock, brass furniture, beaver cheek piece.

I am thinking the small calibre is more like a colonial period weapon and the long barrel doesn't fit with saddle rifle. The initials WMH could stand for Sam Hawken's brother, a Hagerstown gunsmith, William Hawkins, but that is hard to prove.

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Old June 23, 2009, 08:35 AM   #20
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i would pay colt a call and ask to have a 5 shot 45 70 made for a strong side carry. then a Winchester repeater in 45 70...hay as long as we are dreaming... and two 45 colts in shoulder holsters. it don't hurt to be 6"4 and 260lbs. ether. and cant forget a 1887 repeating shot gun. if all else fail's i'll just take a 51 navy in 36. it worked for wild bill.
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Old June 23, 2009, 09:00 AM   #21
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Schofield Revolvers.

Browning 1885 made by the Browning Bros. themselves.

Winchester 1885 (for repeater rifle).

I can't wait for 1897. I can have a Broomhandle Mauser with a shoulder stock holster.

Of course, if I was smart, I'd get my hands on a Confederate Whitworth and tell the family to hold onto it for at least a century.
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Old June 23, 2009, 09:31 AM   #22
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It's the late 1860's...and if we followed my family history I'd probably either be in the opening stages of the Franco-Prussian War carrying a "needle gun", or I'd be in England drinking a toast to the queen and carrying some sort of a gentleman's pocket pistol (maybe a Tranter Patent Revolver).
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Old June 23, 2009, 10:01 AM   #23
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TheKlawMan, what you have is definitely not a Hawken but appears to be a fairly late Tryon(1870's)trade rifle. Going back and looking at the pics again it is a cut down full stock.
Here's a page out of Tryon's 1875 catalog. The top one is probably what yours started out as with the trigger guard from the bottom one and the patch box from the middle one. The guard and patch box are most likely original to the rifle.

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Old June 23, 2009, 11:53 AM   #24
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my ruger old army and a CVA Electra ARC with electronic ignition with match grade bullets using 100 grains of compressed pyrodex pellets.

but if that didn't work out for some reason I'd probably carry my Kentucky rifle.
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Old June 23, 2009, 01:28 PM   #25
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TheKlawMan,
Because the caliber narrows down from .40 to .35 one half inch in from the muzzle, rather than explaining it as an eroded bore, I think that it suggests that the muzzle had been "coned" to make starting, ramming and reloading a projectile much easier than if the bore was uniform.
Coning is considered by many to not interfere with barrel accuracy.
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