22.250 loads

Tam · June 16, 2009, 01:16 PM

Hi
I have just bought a remington .22/250 vssf. I had the barrel cut down to 22 inch and threaded for a wildcat sound moderator. I have loaded 4 different loads from 34 grains of varget up to the max of 36 grains all using 55 grain nosler ballistic tips. None have produced a good group. Any other recipes that work well

McClintock · June 16, 2009, 01:44 PM

Hi, Tam.

First of all, Welcome to TFL!

When you say they don't group well, what kinds of groups are you getting? Just so I have an idea of what kind of accuracy you're looking for.

What COL are you using for your loads? I'm wondering if you're seating them too far off the lands, this may have some effect on accuracy. The 22-250 is a pretty hot cartridge.

Also, what is the twist rate of your barrel?

My $0.02,
McClintock

VaFisher · June 16, 2009, 02:33 PM

Mine likes 35.7 gr of 4064 with a 50 gr Hornady Vmax CCI LR primer, tack driver.

Tam · June 16, 2009, 05:12 PM

The groups are 1.5inch at 100m. To seat the bullet i put a lightly resised bullet into my rifle with a head just entered into the case, I then closed the bolt slowly which pushed the head further into the case when it hit the lans. I then seated it about a mill deeper. I would be expecting my bullets to be touching at 100m. There is a 6.5/20x50 leopold scope on this rifle.
Thanks
Tam

landcruzr · June 16, 2009, 06:20 PM

I dont think shortening your barrel helped your accuracy any-
My savage 22-250 with a 26" barrel loves 34 gr. of Varget under a 55 Hornady "Blitz" bullet. It will put three rounds in a nickle at 100 yrds all day....
Those were my first reloads and I havent even played with other recipes yet.
Just my two cents

James R. Burke · June 16, 2009, 06:28 PM

When I had one it liked the 55 grain v-max with IMR-4064 you might give it a try. Good manual and start at the min. Have fun!

McClintock · June 16, 2009, 11:23 PM

Tam, sounds like you've done pretty much everything I would have done, not that I am an expert by any stretch of the imagination. I'd try one of the other recipes posted, perhaps your particular rifle just doesn't like that particular powder/bullet combination. Some rifles definitely have a preference for particular powders and bullets.

Hope you find your ideal load, keep us posted!

Cheers!
McClintock

snuffy · June 17, 2009, 02:04 AM

Quote:

a wildcat sound moderator.

As in suppressor/silencer? That alone could be a real problem. Especially if it is not dead square with the bore. Buffeting of the BULLET,(not head), by the baffles can cause problems. The loaded round is referred by many names, round being one of them, shell, cartridge, but not bullet.

Actually 1.5 inch 100 meter groups WITH a silencer is pretty good. I doubt you're going to do better.

Tam · June 17, 2009, 10:05 AM

Thanks for all the advice.
Also thanks to snuffy for the leason on terminology. I have used the same moderator on a previous .22/250 and was putting bullets on top of each other at 100m. I will be most unhappy if i cannot improve my groups at 100m. What would a 1.5inch group be at 300m other than a miss.

June 16, 2009, 01:16 PM	#1
Tam Junior Member Join Date: June 16, 2009 Location: Argyll, Scotland Posts: 5	22.250 loads Hi I have just bought a remington .22/250 vssf. I had the barrel cut down to 22 inch and threaded for a wildcat sound moderator. I have loaded 4 different loads from 34 grains of varget up to the max of 36 grains all using 55 grain nosler ballistic tips. None have produced a good group. Any other recipes that work well

June 16, 2009, 01:44 PM	#2
McClintock Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2008 Location: The Bald Prairie of Southern Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 291	More info Hi, Tam. First of all, Welcome to TFL! When you say they don't group well, what kinds of groups are you getting? Just so I have an idea of what kind of accuracy you're looking for. What COL are you using for your loads? I'm wondering if you're seating them too far off the lands, this may have some effect on accuracy. The 22-250 is a pretty hot cartridge. Also, what is the twist rate of your barrel? My $0.02, McClintock

June 16, 2009, 02:33 PM	#3
VaFisher Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2006 Posts: 596	Mine likes 35.7 gr of 4064 with a 50 gr Hornady Vmax CCI LR primer, tack driver.

June 16, 2009, 05:12 PM	#4
Tam Junior Member Join Date: June 16, 2009 Location: Argyll, Scotland Posts: 5	The groups are 1.5inch at 100m. To seat the bullet i put a lightly resised bullet into my rifle with a head just entered into the case, I then closed the bolt slowly which pushed the head further into the case when it hit the lans. I then seated it about a mill deeper. I would be expecting my bullets to be touching at 100m. There is a 6.5/20x50 leopold scope on this rifle. Thanks Tam

June 16, 2009, 06:20 PM	#5
landcruzr Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2009 Posts: 122	I dont think shortening your barrel helped your accuracy any- My savage 22-250 with a 26" barrel loves 34 gr. of Varget under a 55 Hornady "Blitz" bullet. It will put three rounds in a nickle at 100 yrds all day.... Those were my first reloads and I havent even played with other recipes yet. Just my two cents

June 16, 2009, 06:28 PM	#6
James R. Burke Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2009 Location: U.P. of Mich/Quinnesec Posts: 1,897	When I had one it liked the 55 grain v-max with IMR-4064 you might give it a try. Good manual and start at the min. Have fun!

June 16, 2009, 11:23 PM	#7
McClintock Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2008 Location: The Bald Prairie of Southern Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 291	Tam, sounds like you've done pretty much everything I would have done, not that I am an expert by any stretch of the imagination. I'd try one of the other recipes posted, perhaps your particular rifle just doesn't like that particular powder/bullet combination. Some rifles definitely have a preference for particular powders and bullets. Hope you find your ideal load, keep us posted! Cheers! McClintock

June 17, 2009, 10:05 AM	#9
Tam Junior Member Join Date: June 16, 2009 Location: Argyll, Scotland Posts: 5	Thanks for all the advice. Also thanks to snuffy for the leason on terminology. I have used the same moderator on a previous .22/250 and was putting bullets on top of each other at 100m. I will be most unhappy if i cannot improve my groups at 100m. What would a 1.5inch group be at 300m other than a miss.