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Old June 8, 2009, 11:02 AM   #1
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Traditions 1873 BP

I have a new Traditions 1873 BP that I purchased at a local gun show this week end,my question is can it be converted over to a 45LC? I saw a post on here some time back that some one had done it? Help! Willie
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Old June 8, 2009, 11:40 AM   #2
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It can be done but it's difficult to do. It's not just a parts swap makeover.
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Old June 8, 2009, 01:56 PM   #3
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Thanks: But I would like to know if there is some body that knows how to make the swap?
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Old June 8, 2009, 02:08 PM   #4
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...also I would like to know if a 457 ball can be used in the place of a 454 ball? In the Traditions 1873
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Old June 8, 2009, 08:22 PM   #5
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Yes.

Was articap's answer to your question about converting the 1873 on The High Road forum unsatisfactory?
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Old June 8, 2009, 10:06 PM   #6
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I don't think it was what I am looking for. On a forum,which I can't remember(got it of of google) some one had converted an 1873 to 45 LC,but for the life of me, I can't find it.And I also want to know if its OK to use a 457 ball in the 1873? I have 457's that I use in my ROA,help please?
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Old June 8, 2009, 10:08 PM   #7
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OK, I see in your post...duhhhhh!
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Old June 9, 2009, 06:15 AM   #8
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http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=310467
If you do a search on this and THR forums a lot has been written on this revolver.
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Old June 9, 2009, 10:54 AM   #9
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hey guys great board you have here. thanks for letting me be a part of it. i have seen the 1873 bp converted over by just using a 45 lc cylinder from vti. part#saa5214. and some file work on the existing firing pin. the gun has about 200 hundred rounds through it with know problems so far. i put 50 magtech cowboy loads through it my self. now don't any one run out a try this on my word alone. for all i know your gun may blow up the first try. i am just repeating what i have seen my self.
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Old June 9, 2009, 11:13 AM   #10
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i have seen the 1873 bp converted over by just using a 45 lc cylinder from vti. part#saa5214. and some file work on the existing firing pin.
Not as simple as that. The firing pin is off set as well as the hole it goes through. My understanding is it requires a new hammer and having the old firing pin hole filled and rebored.
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Old June 9, 2009, 11:28 AM   #11
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this one lines up fine. he just left the flat side of the firing pin alone and rounded the rest of the pin so that it strikes just the primmer. he had to shorting it to the right length to. again i am not telling any one to try this with there gun. but i know for a fact that it works fine on this one.
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Old June 9, 2009, 11:53 AM   #12
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I don't know why some folks insist on reinventing the wheel. Why buy a cartridge gun, converted to percussion, to convert it to fire cartridges??? If you want a cartridge gun, buy a Model P. If you want a percussion gun, buy an 1851, 1860 or 1858 Remington, etc. If you want a percussion pistol converted to fire cartridges (like the originals), buy a cartridge conversion. People just seem to have an undying need to get one over on the manufacturers or something, to get something for nothing, burning a dollar to save a dime. Guess I just don't get it.
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Old June 9, 2009, 12:00 PM   #13
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Exactly. Makes no sense to me, either. Unless, of course, you're living in the UK and intending to subvert the laws against owning cartridge handguns...

Here's the geometry:






I don't see how he did it.
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Old June 9, 2009, 12:05 PM   #14
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if you have to modify the gun to the point that it well only fire cartridges. i'm with you. i see know point in it. just buy a 45. but to have a 1873 that well fire c&b and cartridges is a gun i like.
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With such a huge firing pin hole, looks like a good opportunity for primers to flow back into the hole and tie up the gun. Any effort to make it work will likely just worsen the issue.

This may be an obvious and silly question, but why is the firing pin offset?
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Old June 9, 2009, 12:15 PM   #16
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the gun i am talking about is a pietta sold by traditions. and is made a little different than a uberti.
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Old June 9, 2009, 12:28 PM   #17
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This may be an obvious and silly question, but why is the firing pin offset?
I'm thinking to make the above mentioned conversion difficult.
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Old June 9, 2009, 12:35 PM   #18
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That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
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Old June 9, 2009, 01:05 PM   #19
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it's not as offset as it look's. look how big the bottom of the firing pin is. if you file that pin down to the right size and depth it works. the pietta has that same off set look to it. and i had no problem with it hitting the primer. or with primer flow back. i am in know way trying talk any one in to trying this with your gun. i am not a gun smith and don't have any idea how safe it is. but i do know for a fact the gun i shoot only has the pin work done and the cylinder changed.

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Old June 9, 2009, 01:12 PM   #20
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if any one has a uberti like the one in the pic above. i'm looking to buy one.
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Old June 9, 2009, 03:44 PM   #21
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I agree with Craigc. Why bother? Shoot c&B and enjoy it.
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Old June 9, 2009, 03:59 PM   #22
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Thanks for posts, I see what needs to be done! I have a reason for having the 1873 use both BP and cartridge. I have several conversions of differentr revolvers,next will be a Colt Dragoon.
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Old June 9, 2009, 07:30 PM   #23
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>>>I agree with Craigc. Why bother?<<<

Two reasons come to mind.

A: The people who want to do this can't legally buy a firearm that requires a federal background check.

B: They are conspiracy advocates who want a gun that's "off the radar".

Frankly, I can understand item "B" a little bit my own self.

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Old June 9, 2009, 09:44 PM   #24
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I have no reason to own a gun thats not legal,as I collect as well as use to hunt.I am a person who wants what he wants,nothing more nothing less.The idea of having a revolver that will fire both cartridge and cap and ball is intriguing to me. Again,thanks to all, Willie.
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Old June 9, 2009, 11:23 PM   #25
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The idea of having a revolver that will fire both cartridge and cap and ball is intriguing to me. Again,thanks to all, Willie.
Then why not get a 58 Remington or 1860 Colt and a conversion cylinder? These are tried and true conversions and are easily swapped back and forth.
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