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Old May 19, 2009, 02:28 PM   #1
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Trigger System suggestions for AR-15?

What is a good replacement trigger for my LMT Standard 16" AR? I really like what I've read about the Gold Trigger System, but its a little more money than I'd like to spend and I have no experience with it.

Does anyone have comments on the Gold Trigger or any other suggestions?

Thanks!
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Old May 19, 2009, 02:31 PM   #2
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Why not do one yourself?

http://www.sargenthome.com/15_Minute_AR_Trigger_Job.htm
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Old May 19, 2009, 02:35 PM   #3
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Rock River 2 stage trigger is probably the easiest, and least expensive. It's reliable, predicatable, and durable. Not the sweetest trigger, but a very good improvement.

You could spend more on others, and get really good results. I hear CMMG has a good trigger, but I've never tried it. I have the RRA's trigger, and a couple of Jard triggers working for me. The Jards are a bit of a pain in the ass to get adjusted, but they work great after all is said, and done.

There are a lot of different triggers out there, and there will be more suggestions. Maybe someone that has experience with the Gold Trigger will come along.

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Old May 19, 2009, 02:38 PM   #4
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If you want a 2-stage trigger (which I prefer) then Rock River's is about the best for the money.

If you want a single stage trigger then the Jewel is a good one.
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Old May 19, 2009, 03:56 PM   #5
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Everyone has their own preferences mine is single stage

old Sneaky Pete here: Been shooting since '52 and after spending 30 years in the US military I've shot most everything from BB guns to 8" Self-propelled Howitzers. Used a lot of 2-stage triggers (on M1Garands and M-16s) and I can't stand them ever since I got my hands on a couple of good single stage units. JP Enterprises has an outstanding 3# Fire control systm that I had them install on my '73 Colt SP-1 and it is really sweet But a little costly. BUT this year on a stripped Lower Receiver build I decided to go with a real light single stage for target shooting and I went with the JARD adjustable 1>1-1/2# trigger that I bought from Midway USA for $147.99 +S&H. Although the set-up and adjustment is detailed IF you follow the instructions that come with the unit (with 1 exception) they are incredably sweet with no take-up or over-travel. The 1 exception is I don't use the "Blue" locktite CUZ with the blue you have to back off your adjustment-apply the blue then RE-Adjust. Instead i adjust the unit exactly like I want it and then I use GREEN-Locktite which creeps down into the threads and sets them without moving anything. I have regularly "Cleaned" matches with that new JARD and recommend it to everyone. THANX--SNEAKY
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Old May 19, 2009, 07:20 PM   #6
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I did a Jewell two-stage,

http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe...g?brandid=1528

I think it's great. Drastic improvement in my M&P 15.
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Old May 19, 2009, 08:09 PM   #7
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I went with the JARD adjustable 1>1-1/2# trigger
sneaky pete,

That's a little light for my taste. I like them around 3lbs, but then again you probably shoot long range competition. 3lbs is better for 3 gun.

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Old May 20, 2009, 04:08 PM   #8
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I use a Jewell two stage as well. I like it because you can adjust pretty much every aspect of the trigger. One thing about light triggers is that it's easy to bumpfire them by accident if you don't have good trigger control or aren't paying attention. Having adjustability, especially on the second stage is nice to have.
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Old May 20, 2009, 04:15 PM   #9
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Old May 20, 2009, 04:51 PM   #10
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I'm using the RRA NM two-stage and the JP trigger/hammer combo. Much prefer the JP. My JP pulls at around 3.5#.
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Old May 20, 2009, 08:24 PM   #11
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Decent all around trigger on a budget? Rock River 2 stage
Benchrest rifle? Jewell 2 stage
Cost is no object when your life depends on it? Guisselle
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Old May 28, 2009, 02:37 PM   #12
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Two questions:

1. The Geissele seems to have a heavier first stage and a lighter second stage... this is different than the others is it not? Can't wrap my head around that one... Does anyone have any specifics?

2. Does anyone have a URL for the Jewell Manufacturer's web site?
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Old May 28, 2009, 03:15 PM   #13
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There is a guy that does AR trigger jobs cheap forget his name but I have it in my email. PM me if you want the info.
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Old May 28, 2009, 04:04 PM   #14
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My Jewell has a lighter first stage and a heavier second. It can be adjusted so that the second stage is not apparent and works like a single stage, it can also be adjusted so light that it won't light off the round.
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Old May 28, 2009, 05:03 PM   #15
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I bought the Timney singe stage. Works for me.
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Old May 29, 2009, 06:07 PM   #16
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I've tried the Gold Trigger in a couple different ARs and have been very pleased with the results. I have a Jewell trigger in one of my Remington 700s and found them to be excellent triggers as well. Both the Gold and Jewell compare favorably with the Target AccuTrigger in my Savage F/TR.
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Old July 10, 2009, 10:47 AM   #17
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For those that are interested, I ended up purchasing and installing a Geissele Service Weight Trigger.

Completely awesome Trigger. Would be hard pressed to consider anything else after having fired this one.
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Old July 10, 2009, 12:08 PM   #18
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Was it very hard to install? I looked at a Geissele but I wasn't sure I could install it. I ended up with a Timney. It works fine and was very easy to install. Good luck with your new trigger.
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Old July 10, 2009, 12:12 PM   #19
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Can't imagine that any trigger for an AR would be hard to install.
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Old July 10, 2009, 12:34 PM   #20
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That's how I felt about it but looking at a picture of the Geissele the half moon piece with the notches and spring kind of threw me. I may have thought different if I had one in my hand to look at. You are right in that every trigger I have put in was a simple install.
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Old July 10, 2009, 02:12 PM   #21
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No, it was not difficult to install at all. The trigger came with a hand punch that is used to hold the components in place while you insert the permanent pins.

It was a 'little' difficult dealing with the hammer spring tension, but other than that it was very easy to install.
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Old July 10, 2009, 02:24 PM   #22
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Jewel two stage. Easy to install and very adjustable.
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Old July 10, 2009, 02:31 PM   #23
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I think the Rock River Arms 2-stage is the best mix of a light pull and a rugged design. There are no set screws to back out or get stripped. There are lighter and crisper triggers out there, but the RRA is the best light/rugged mix for a pretty good price. I think I got mine for around $120 shipped a year or so ago.

On a side note, my AR shooting buddy has an RRA M4gery and I have an M&P15. Between us, we have about a case and a half of Wolf Military Classic through our rifles using the RRA two-stage triggers. I have heard a handful of stories where someone has adjusted their trigger too low or bubba'd a trigger so that it wouldn't always tap the primer hard enough. I think if the RRA was going to produce light primer strikes, it would have done it on the Wolf steel case stuff. We also have put a bunch of PRVI Partisan and actual surplus (not brand name) M193 through our rifles. No problems at all.
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Old July 10, 2009, 04:16 PM   #24
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I have heard a handful of stories where someone has adjusted their trigger too low or bubba'd a trigger so that it wouldn't always tap the primer hard enough. I think if the RRA was going to produce light primer strikes, it would have done it on the Wolf steel case stuff. We also have put a bunch of PRVI Partisan and actual surplus (not brand name) M193 through our rifles. No problems at all.
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If one follows the instructions that come with the JP trigger, one will use red (271) Loctite on the setscrews. They won't come out!! Also, regardless of how one adjusts the engagement and overtravel on the JP set, the strength of the hammer strike isn't affected. So much for the "light strike" theories. Friends don't let friends shoot Wolf ammo!
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Old July 10, 2009, 05:25 PM   #25
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From out in left field...

I installed a JP Enterprises single-stage trigger in my Colt AR.

It breaks like the proverbial glass rod.
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