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Old May 19, 2009, 11:34 AM   #1
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S&W Model 18-3 coming my way

I just won this auction on Gun Broker.

I've been thinking about a K frame .22 for a long time. Earlier this week a friend picked up a Model 17-2, so I figured the time was right to get one of my own.

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIte...Item=128983059

One of the pix...

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Old May 19, 2009, 11:36 AM   #2
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Beautiful. However, I'm S&W challenged. What is the difference in a model 17 and a model 18?
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Old May 19, 2009, 11:53 AM   #3
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The Model 17 is a fancier then the 18. Target sights and such. Kind of like compairing the Model 28 to the Model 27. The Model 28 is a utility or duty gun, the model 27 is a bit fancier, target sights, deeper blue finish.

As to the Model 18, I love it. It more closely matches the service revolver I carried for work. Mine is supper accurate. I do like the front target sights on the Model 17 & 27s but they aren't practical for a service revolver, they hang up on jackests & such.
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Old May 19, 2009, 12:02 PM   #4
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What is the difference in a model 17 and a model 18?
IIRC, it's also barrel length; the Model 17 is the descendent of the (6") K-22 Target Masterpiece, whereas the 18 descends from the (4") K-22 Combat Masterpiece.

Nice, gun, Mike. Enjoy!
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Old May 19, 2009, 12:35 PM   #5
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Congrats! Beautiful 18 you got there. I'm still looking for mine. Regards 18DAI.
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Old May 20, 2009, 09:13 AM   #6
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Well done Mike.

S&W K Frame .22 revolvers are just an absolute treat to shoot and own. There are few equals but none better IMO.
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Old May 20, 2009, 07:07 PM   #7
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Good luck, Mike. I have a model 17 myself at my dealer's. All paid up and waiting for a permit. Normally I get the permit first, but I couldn't pass this sucker up. It's killing me waiting, but that's NJ. I'll post some pix when I get it. Oh, BTW, it's got the 8 3/8" barrel. Look out paper at my local range very soon, your days are numbered!
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Old May 20, 2009, 07:08 PM   #8
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Nice revolver! I'm sure it will be one heck of a shooter. I picked mine up on an impulse back in January and haven't regretted it since. (Mine is a -4, non-pinned.)

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Beautiful. However, I'm S&W challenged. What is the difference in a model 17 and a model 18?
Barrel length and sights. A Model 18 will be a 4" barrel with Baughman ramp front sight. A Model 17 will be a 6" barrel (or maybe an 8 3/8") with a Partridge front sight. And there are variations in stocks, hammers and triggers. Like my personal 18-4 has a mid-width hammer and target trigger, but came with Magna stocks. Judging by Mr. Irwin's picture, his will be coming with S&W's Target-stocks.

Otherwise, they are polished and finished identically, unlike the M-27/28 comparison where the 28s didn't get the same polished blue the more expensive guns did.
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Old May 20, 2009, 08:32 PM   #9
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+1 to P-990

The finish on the M18 is top-notch. So is the grooved, target trigger and big target hammer. The front sight is different than on the 17, the barrel length is 4" vs 6", but it is NOT a step down from the 17.

I have an M18, and it's a tack driver. Only thing I don't like are the grips, which are too small for me, but a Tyler T-grip fixed that problem nicely.
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Old May 21, 2009, 12:28 AM   #10
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As previously said; the M17 and M18 don't parallel the M27 and M28. In fact, my M18 has a beautiful deep blue finish, while my K-22's have a more dull finish. Here's some examples:

Regards:
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1946-47 K-22 . . pre M17


mid 1950's K-22 . . pre M17


M-18


Model 27 no dash and a Model 28 no dash
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Old May 21, 2009, 12:55 AM   #11
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Nice addition Mike. I got one a couple of months back. Get em while you can.
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Old May 21, 2009, 05:41 AM   #12
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Nice deal you got there Mike. I'm jealous. I like the Model 18 just a bit better than the M17 because it'll do both fun range work and works well as a camp gun too.

Does this mean you now have a "set" of the K-series?

The Model 18, as mentioned, is a 4" version of the M17, but with a different front sight. The M17 was more of a target/hunting pistol where the M18 was intended as a training pistol.

In the six-inch models, what later became the Model 17, Model 32 and Model 14 comprised the "K Series" called the K-22, K-32 and K-38 revolvers. S&W touted these as excellent training aids, starting shooters on a .22, progressing to the mild .32 centerfire (then still used at Camp Perry national matches) and finally the K-38 for serious duty work.

The Model 18 is a .22 caliber companion to the Model 15. The weight, balance and feel of each gun makes it difficult to tell them apart by touch.


S&W Model 15-3, circa 1984

Unfortunately .22 caliber M&P K-frames (Model 45 "Post Office") guns are so rare they're not shooters. The same applies for a small run of .32 M&P Revolvers made between 1948-1950. This is a shame as an M&P .22 revolver makes for a great outdoors too.
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Old May 21, 2009, 06:44 AM   #13
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"Does this mean you now have a "set" of the K-series?"

Well, this makes the .22.

I have a .32-20.

I have a .38 Spl.

I have a .357.

I don't have either a .32 Long (I have a J frame, not a K frame), or a .380-200 British, so no, I don't have a set of K frames, either in models or calibers.

I'm a lot closer in calibers.
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Old May 22, 2009, 06:37 AM   #14
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I don't have either a .32 Long (I have a J frame, not a K frame), or a .380-200 British, so no, I don't have a set of K frames, either in models or calibers.
I should have been specific... I was wondering if this gave you the "K" series trio - a K-22, K-32 and K-38. Not one of each K-frame -- geeez, I don't think even Hammer It has all those.

I did remember you had a .32 of some kind. I must have been thinking of the .32-20 or the 30/31 J-Frame.

For what it's worth, the Winchester Super-X High Velocity (22XLR I think) are the most accurate out of my 4" 617.
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Old May 22, 2009, 10:15 AM   #15
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"I don't think even Hammer It has all those."

I'm glad that Hammerit hasn't posted in this thread.

I hate crying/drooling at work. I keep shorting out keyboards...


I actually have two S&W .32 Longs, a circa 1920 Regulation Police I frame with a 4" barrel, and a circa 1972 Model 30 snub nose J frame (it's just so damned CUTE!).

As for the ammo, a friend of mine stopped at WalMart the other evening and found a treasure trove of Federal Lightning bulkpack .22s, the 500 round bricks of 10 boxes of 50 rounds each.

Price is what it was before ammo became hard to find.
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Old May 23, 2009, 03:03 AM   #16
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Out here, I-frames seem to be hard to find in any kind of decent condition.

Congrats on the find of Federal ammo. It'll probably do just as well.

I'm now contemplating a 60-mile drive to inspect a pre-Model 43 (.22 Airweight Kit Gun) and whether or not I can afford it.

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I actually have two S&W .32 Longs, a circa 1920 Regulation Police I frame with a 4" barrel, and a circa 1972 Model 30 snub nose J frame (it's just so damned CUTE!).
I know!

Model 31 Regulation Police 2-inch, .32 Long

I think part of it is those "dainty" little cartridges.
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Old May 31, 2009, 12:12 PM   #17
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My model 18 is here!

I picked it up yesterday after a shotgunning excursion.

I'm hoping to get to the NRA range sometime this week to try it out.
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Old May 31, 2009, 08:30 PM   #18
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Nice find, I bought an 18-3 new.They are outstanding shooters.You are going to love it.
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Old May 31, 2009, 10:51 PM   #19
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Eagerly awaiting the range report and target photos.
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