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Old May 11, 2009, 07:42 PM   #1
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The best"cheap" 1911

I 've never owned an automatic pistol before only wheel guns. Well now I want one, nothin fancy, just dependable and rugged. I've been looking at springfeild and a few others. Price range between $400 and $600 and preferably something I could build on later if I wanted to. Thanks Kendo
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Old May 11, 2009, 07:52 PM   #2
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You should be able to get a used "loaded" or a new mil-spec from Springfield.

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Old May 11, 2009, 07:52 PM   #3
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Here is my Auto-Ordnance M1911A1, pakerized, with wood grips. Taken the day after I got it, just back from the range

Very little trouble in the 700-800 rounds I've put through it. A couple stovepipes. Never a failure to feed with a good mag. I have two so-so mags that cause an occasional failure to feed

450 bucks. It was made in Worcester MA. Auto-Ordnance has a bad rep of sorts, from their earlier 1911A1s, from West Hurley NY. many of those were not so good, although some were fine pistols for what they are



Here it is with a 1940's USGI trigger (I just polished the bar and dropped it in, no sweat) and rubber grips



Playing the part with plastic grips and USGI trigger



With some of my WWII stuff (jacket's a repro). Some folks were nice enough to put this in a calendar

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Old May 11, 2009, 07:53 PM   #4
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Springfield GI, RIA GI. You can't go wrong with either. Honestly, I think they are both made just as well but I'd pay the extra 80 or 100 bucks for the springfield because of resale. The word is starting to get out on the RIAs though. Darn fine pistols
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Old May 11, 2009, 08:06 PM   #5
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I was researching the same thing about six months ago when I ran into a deal on a Colt Commander................at the time what I came up with was a RIA Tatical, see here:

http://www.centerfiresystems.com/AC-RI1911TAC.aspx

For the price difference between the RIA GI and RIA Tatical the Tatical was the best bang for the buck.....do some searches. The only problem is everyone else knows this too (you'll notice on the above link that Centerfire isn't even taking backorders) so finding one is a little rough.
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Old May 11, 2009, 08:21 PM   #6
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If you consider the features you will want to end up with...the Taurus 1911 offers the most for the $$$.
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Old May 11, 2009, 08:38 PM   #7
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If you want to build it up as a project gun, Springfield GI- the forged frame and slide is a minor but worthy upgrade.

If you want a basic GI type as a shooter, Rock Island GI.

If you want something mostly featured out, requiring very little additional customization (maybe sights or little things like that), the Rock Island Tactical is my pick.

The Taurus PT1911 has a couple more features than the RI Tactical (the most beneficial extra feature IMO is the front strap checkering), but the quality control can be a little more uneven than the Rock Island models (the Taurus has a forged frame/slide as opposed to cast, but others and I have had issues with our PT1911s). I wouldn't say to stay away from the Taurus, but I'd go with a Springfield or a Rock Island over it- the RIA is likely to be a bit cheaper too.
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Old May 11, 2009, 08:54 PM   #8
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I wholeheartedly agree with recommendations for the RIA Tactical. Also made by Armscor is the comparable but recently discontinued Charles Daly EFS (Daly is in the midst of switching from Armscor in the Philipines to Bul Transmark in Israel).

This one shows aftermarket grips and trigger:
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Old May 11, 2009, 08:59 PM   #9
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Thanks guys for your input,these all sound good to me. I had never heard of RI until now. Man this place is cool!!
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Old May 11, 2009, 09:11 PM   #10
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I love my RIA GI... she's accurate and oh so pretty. I've shot 4k rounds through mine. 95% of them reloads

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Old May 11, 2009, 11:48 PM   #11
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check out the sti spartan. great gun n beautiful. def made to be upgraded
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Old May 11, 2009, 11:49 PM   #12
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Rock Island Armory is good, as are the Springfield GI models.. if you can find it a Springfield Milspec has much better sights for not much more $$
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Old May 12, 2009, 05:17 AM   #13
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scour the ads in gunbroker too...

The "new" Legacy Citadel was reviewed by Combat Handuns a couple months ago, and they liked it. $500 buys you a 1911 with a lightened 70 series trigger group, extended safeties, and nothing you don't really need. About like a RIA Tactical, for perhaps a few coins less...

Whatever you choose-enjoy!
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Old May 12, 2009, 06:45 AM   #14
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Springfield's GI model would be my first choice for a cheap 1911. They are made and assembled in Brazil but if you do have a probelm Springfield's customer service is one of the best in the industry.
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Old May 12, 2009, 07:37 AM   #15
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Springfield's GI model would be my first choice for a cheap 1911.

Also a good choice-Bud's is running reserve deals on Springers right now too...the parkerized GI is $511, and the SS GI is $599...
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Old May 12, 2009, 07:48 AM   #16
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Another recommendation for the RIA Tactical, I own 2 and don't hesitate to carry either for SD, got them a while back for $430 shipped.







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Old May 12, 2009, 08:39 AM   #17
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Since I was planning on having it as a "range toys" only I went low-cost with my first 1911 and bought a Taurus PT-1911. After an initial break in period I never had a problem with mine, but friends were having trouble and I was having trouble with other Taurus guns so I sort of fled the brand.

Next I picked up a Charles Daly EFS. WOW what a great gun that has turned out to be. Again, I bought it as a "range only" toy but after owning it for a while I would have complete confidence in it as a carry gun as well.


More recently I got interested in "Bullseye" shooting and someone told me that RIA (Rock Island Armory) guns were a great platform to build a "Bullseye" gun from so I started looking around just to see what was out there and then I stumbled across the "Satin Nickel" version of the RIA Tactical which LEAPT up off the counter and into my hand and wouldn't let go <grin>.


The RIA is a little fussier on ammo but with stuff it likes it runs very well and really the only issues I've had with it are if I'm using reloads with beat up rims (then I have the occasional extraction issue).
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Old May 12, 2009, 10:07 AM   #18
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taurus PT 1911A1
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Old May 12, 2009, 10:45 AM   #19
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Also if you like bling you can get a RIA in bright nickle too.
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Old May 12, 2009, 11:17 AM   #20
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My vote goes to the STI Spartan.
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Old May 12, 2009, 11:30 AM   #21
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My vote goes to the STI Spartan.
FWIW the Spartan is built up on Armscor frame/slide & many parts just like the RIA and CD
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Old May 12, 2009, 12:23 PM   #22
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Spartan ftmfw, although i paid a tad over your price limit, think it was $670

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Old May 12, 2009, 02:35 PM   #23
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My American Classic II Deluxe Government Model (whew, that's a mouthful!) was $389.99 plus tax out the door. Here it is with custom grips:



It's loaded with the fancy stuff (special trigger, sights, etc.) right out of the box. I've shot 200 or so rounds downrange so far, all without a single hiccup. I'm very pleased with my purchase, especially since I bought a bunch of ammo with the cash I saved.

Gunblast.com did a thorough review of this pistol, posted here.

Good luck with your search!
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Old May 12, 2009, 03:01 PM   #24
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American Classic II Deluxe

The American Classic II Deluxe gets my vote for the best modern day 1911 for the money available. For what it offers no other (1911) gun today can match its overall value / features.
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Old May 12, 2009, 06:17 PM   #25
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The American Classic II Deluxe gets my vote for the best modern day 1911 for the money available. For what it offers no other (1911) gun today can match its overall value / features.
Well, get them now before they come to their senses. In the 80s, a Springfield Armory 1911 was $250. And yes, they were about the best deal on the market then.
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