Anti reactions to Nordyke

tube_ee · April 23, 2009, 01:15 PM

I haven't seen any yet. And I'm not sure what to make of that.

I've checked the Brady and VPC websites, and I've seen nothing yet.

After Heller, they were all over the airwaves, simultaneously decrying the "activist decision" (with nary a trace of irony), and claiming that it didn't really matter all that much.

In particular, the limited jurisdiction of the decision was front and center in their arguments. They were all about saying that the State and local laws (that are their real bread-and-butter) weren't affected by the ruling.

But regarding Nordyke?

chirp... chirp... chirp.

What gives?

--Shannon

Shorts · April 23, 2009, 01:25 PM

I'm not completely read up yet. My first guess would be that there's been virtually no news coverage reporting the decision and its impact. The scope is probably limited right now to those directly involved. I'm sure the outcome might not be what some wanted to hear. When that happens, things are hushed.

maestro pistolero · April 23, 2009, 01:34 PM

I know. It' mind numbing. I can only imagine they are trying to re-group, and assess their options for damage control. The near-universal panning of this story by major media outlets is conspicuous, to say the least.

I'm sure the antis would like to see this go en banc, so more of their liberal judges could weigh in. I think it's hopeless for them to overturn this. But, my understanding is that the 9th could elect to review en banc on their own.

The court has merely codified what everyone intuitively knew to be true. If this were to be somehow overturned (again very doubtful, in my mind) you can bet that would be widely reported.

Shorts · April 23, 2009, 01:35 PM

Probably a good time to email news networks and ask them to get on the report

CowTowner · April 23, 2009, 01:58 PM

I actually did email CNN.com and asked them where the coverage was.
No response as of this writing.

maestro pistolero · April 23, 2009, 02:06 PM

I sent emails to all the alphabet soup news managers. This clearly is not an oversight.

johnwilliamson062 · April 23, 2009, 02:38 PM

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and claiming that it didn't really matter all that much

and as it turns out it pretty much didn't. DC just ignored the decision.

Yellowfin · April 23, 2009, 05:40 PM

I'm sure a few are staying as inebriated as possible to dull the pain. Also some may have done free diving off the Golden Gate.

As far as major news outlets, it's probably difficult to understand. I wouldn't have been able to immediately understand it if I hadn't been stduying the issue for a while.

ilbob · April 23, 2009, 05:42 PM

I sent emails to several local news organizations. So far no response and no stories. Very wierd considering what a huge story it is.

**Al Norris** · April 23, 2009, 06:10 PM

Strange?

How about having no word from even the NRA, yet!

bob.a · April 23, 2009, 07:30 PM

There's a blurb on the NRA/ILA page, dated 4/21, but I think it was only posted today.

**Al Norris** · April 24, 2009, 12:10 AM

The "blurb" wasn't there as of 11:00pm MDT last night.

alloy · April 24, 2009, 07:08 AM

Short sentiment from a Brady spokesman Paul Helmke in here...this is from 2 nights ago. He is smiling a little too much to be believable.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bes...gun.rights.cnn

Shorts · April 24, 2009, 11:06 AM

I wonder how this decision will factor in to the newly filed bill by Lautenberg and future gun-control attempts. (I've not thought that question through just speaking outloud)

WeedWacker · April 25, 2009, 06:45 AM

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He is smiling a little too much to be believable.

I think it's a grimace more than a smile

Tucker 1371 · April 25, 2009, 01:11 PM

Quote:

We therefore conclude that the right to keep and bear
arms is “deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition.”
Colonial revolutionaries, the Founders, and a host of commentators
and lawmakers living during the first one hundred
years of the Republic all insisted on the fundamental nature
of the right. It has long been regarded as the “true palladium
of liberty.” Colonists relied on it to assert and to win their
independence, and the victorious Union sought to prevent a
recalcitrant South from abridging it less than a century later.
The crucial role this deeply rooted right has played in our
birth and history compels us to recognize that it is indeed fundamental,
that it is necessary to the Anglo-American conception
of ordered liberty that we have inherited.17 We are
therefore persuaded that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth
Amendment incorporates the Second Amendment and
applies it against the states and local governments

Booyah Nancy Pelosi and company... this makes me happy

bob.a · April 25, 2009, 11:21 PM

http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/News....aspx?ID=12391

The NRA piece about Nordyke.

April 23, 2009, 01:15 PM	#1
tube_ee Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2004 Posts: 492	Anti reactions to Nordyke I haven't seen any yet. And I'm not sure what to make of that. I've checked the Brady and VPC websites, and I've seen nothing yet. After Heller, they were all over the airwaves, simultaneously decrying the "activist decision" (with nary a trace of irony), and claiming that it didn't really matter all that much. In particular, the limited jurisdiction of the decision was front and center in their arguments. They were all about saying that the State and local laws (that are their real bread-and-butter) weren't affected by the ruling. But regarding Nordyke? chirp... chirp... chirp. What gives? --Shannon

April 23, 2009, 01:58 PM	#5
CowTowner Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2007 Location: Cowtown of course! Posts: 979	I actually did email CNN.com and asked them where the coverage was. No response as of this writing. __________________ NRA Chief Range Safety Officer, Home Firearm Safety and Basic Pistol Instructor "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson

April 23, 2009, 02:06 PM	#6
maestro pistolero Senior Member Join Date: August 17, 2007 Posts: 1,896	I sent emails to all the alphabet soup news managers. This clearly is not an oversight. Last edited by maestro pistolero; April 23, 2009 at 07:18 PM.

April 23, 2009, 05:40 PM	#8
Yellowfin Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2007 Location: West Upstate NY Posts: 2,303	I'm sure a few are staying as inebriated as possible to dull the pain. Also some may have done free diving off the Golden Gate. As far as major news outlets, it's probably difficult to understand. I wouldn't have been able to immediately understand it if I hadn't been stduying the issue for a while. __________________ Students for Concealed Carry on Campus http://www.concealedcampus.org New York gun owners unite! Join now! http://www.nyshooters.net May Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

April 23, 2009, 05:42 PM	#9
ilbob Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2006 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 516	I sent emails to several local news organizations. So far no response and no stories. Very wierd considering what a huge story it is. __________________ bob Disclaimers: I am not a lawyer, cop, soldier, gunsmith, politician, plumber, electrician, or a professional practitioner of many of the other things I comment on in this forum.

April 23, 2009, 01:25 PM	#2
Shorts Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2004 Posts: 1,484	I'm not completely read up yet. My first guess would be that there's been virtually no news coverage reporting the decision and its impact. The scope is probably limited right now to those directly involved. I'm sure the outcome might not be what some wanted to hear. When that happens, things are hushed.

April 23, 2009, 01:34 PM	#3
maestro pistolero Senior Member Join Date: August 17, 2007 Posts: 1,896	I know. It' mind numbing. I can only imagine they are trying to re-group, and assess their options for damage control. The near-universal panning of this story by major media outlets is conspicuous, to say the least. I'm sure the antis would like to see this go en banc, so more of their liberal judges could weigh in. I think it's hopeless for them to overturn this. But, my understanding is that the 9th could elect to review en banc on their own. The court has merely codified what everyone intuitively knew to be true. If this were to be somehow overturned (again very doubtful, in my mind) you can bet that would be widely reported.

April 23, 2009, 01:35 PM	#4
Shorts Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2004 Posts: 1,484	Probably a good time to email news networks and ask them to get on the report

April 23, 2009, 06:10 PM	#10
Al Norris Staff Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 8,756	Strange? How about having no word from even the NRA, yet! __________________ Listings of the Current 2A Cases: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=416973

April 23, 2009, 07:30 PM	#11
bob.a Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Posts: 289	There's a blurb on the NRA/ILA page, dated 4/21, but I think it was only posted today.

April 24, 2009, 12:10 AM	#12
Al Norris Staff Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 8,756	The "blurb" wasn't there as of 11:00pm MDT last night. __________________ Listings of the Current 2A Cases: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=416973

April 24, 2009, 11:06 AM	#14
Shorts Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2004 Posts: 1,484	I wonder how this decision will factor in to the newly filed bill by Lautenberg and future gun-control attempts. (I've not thought that question through just speaking outloud)

April 25, 2009, 11:21 PM	#17
bob.a Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Posts: 289	http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/News....aspx?ID=12391 The NRA piece about Nordyke.