Brand new (Refurbished) Ak-47 questions

LSUdominates · April 13, 2009, 05:10 PM

I took it to the range for the first time today. I shot one 30 round clip and smoke started coming from every where. Is this just the oil heating up? It continued to do it just as bad 4 clips later.

I also noticed a strange gas-like smell while firing. Is that normal.

Is $300+ tax the going rate for 1000 rounds of ammo?

Thanks.

lipadj46 · April 13, 2009, 05:15 PM

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I took it to the range for the first time today. I shot one 30 round clip and smoke started coming from every where. Is this just the oil heating up?

Yes, see the youtube video where the guy starts his AK on fire.

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I also noticed a strange gas-like smell while firing. Is that normal

Firing roungs of ammunition is the result of cumbustion and this gives off many gasses and lots of heat that in turn causes wood and oils/shellacs to vaporize/burn/melt releasing more fumes.

Is this your first time shooting that many rounds of centerfire ammo?

kymasabe · April 13, 2009, 05:20 PM

I might as well mention it before someone else does.
It's a magazine, (or mag), not a clip.

Did you disassemble and clean the rifle before shooting it?
If not, you really should as there may be oil and other gunk in there from the refinishing process or sometimes on for storage and shipping.

Before shooting anymore, I'd recommend complete disassembly and thorough cleaning.

Kurt+P+ · April 13, 2009, 05:26 PM

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I also noticed a strange gas-like smell while firing. Is that normal.

Did you eat Mexican food the night before??

750pilot · April 13, 2009, 05:34 PM

Buahaahahhaa!:barf:

LSUdominates · April 13, 2009, 06:37 PM

Its the first time I've shot any rounds in it.

snod_ix · April 13, 2009, 06:46 PM

Probably a silly question but was it in cosmoline, or have residue one it?

I only ask because I recently purchased one that was mostly clean and when I took it apart I noticed there was more cosmoline on the inside. Also the last mags I purchased i took apart and cleaned one of them had a whole huck of cosmo under the follower.

RedneckFur · April 13, 2009, 06:50 PM

If its a refurbished AK, chances are, instead of parking or bluing, the gun was painted with black stove paint. As that paint gets hot, it "cures" and in the process gives off some smoke and smells awful.

After building mine, I had the same issue for the first few range trips.
Just give her a good cleaning, and keep shooting!

Technosavant · April 13, 2009, 10:03 PM

There's a bunch of chemicals from the rounds themselves as well as the rifle and cleaning chemicals to burn off. It's normal.

And yes, right now $300/1000 rounds is probably not unreasonable. 7.62x39 seems to be a little hard to find at the moment- it seems to show up in spurts.

chris in va · April 14, 2009, 01:00 AM

My Saiga didn't smoke when new.

April 13, 2009, 05:10 PM	#1
LSUdominates Junior Member Join Date: April 13, 2009 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 5	Brand new (Refurbished) Ak-47 questions I took it to the range for the first time today. I shot one 30 round clip and smoke started coming from every where. Is this just the oil heating up? It continued to do it just as bad 4 clips later. I also noticed a strange gas-like smell while firing. Is that normal. Is $300+ tax the going rate for 1000 rounds of ammo? Thanks. Last edited by LSUdominates; April 13, 2009 at 05:18 PM. Reason: Forgot to ask question.

April 13, 2009, 05:20 PM	#3
kymasabe Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2005 Location: Northern by birth, Southern by choice. Posts: 1,704	I might as well mention it before someone else does. It's a magazine, (or mag), not a clip. Did you disassemble and clean the rifle before shooting it? If not, you really should as there may be oil and other gunk in there from the refinishing process or sometimes on for storage and shipping. Before shooting anymore, I'd recommend complete disassembly and thorough cleaning. __________________ God's creatures big and small, eat them one, eat them all.

April 13, 2009, 06:50 PM	#8
RedneckFur Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2007 Location: Sotheastern US Posts: 1,417	If its a refurbished AK, chances are, instead of parking or bluing, the gun was painted with black stove paint. As that paint gets hot, it "cures" and in the process gives off some smoke and smells awful. After building mine, I had the same issue for the first few range trips. Just give her a good cleaning, and keep shooting! __________________ In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. -George Orwell

April 13, 2009, 05:34 PM	#5
750pilot Member Join Date: February 13, 2008 Location: tornado alley Posts: 26	Buahaahahhaa!:barf:

April 13, 2009, 06:37 PM	#6
LSUdominates Junior Member Join Date: April 13, 2009 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 5	Its the first time I've shot any rounds in it.

April 13, 2009, 06:46 PM	#7
snod_ix Junior Member Join Date: February 5, 2009 Posts: 9	Probably a silly question but was it in cosmoline, or have residue one it? I only ask because I recently purchased one that was mostly clean and when I took it apart I noticed there was more cosmoline on the inside. Also the last mags I purchased i took apart and cleaned one of them had a whole huck of cosmo under the follower.

April 13, 2009, 10:03 PM	#9
Technosavant Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2007 Location: St. Louis, MO area Posts: 3,667	There's a bunch of chemicals from the rounds themselves as well as the rifle and cleaning chemicals to burn off. It's normal. And yes, right now $300/1000 rounds is probably not unreasonable. 7.62x39 seems to be a little hard to find at the moment- it seems to show up in spurts.

April 14, 2009, 01:00 AM	#10
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 11,723	My Saiga didn't smoke when new.