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Old April 13, 2009, 08:52 AM   #1
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NC Turkey Hunter Shot By Warden

An elderly turkey hunter was shot by a NC Wildlife Resources Commision enforcement officer Saturday morning on his own property near here. The 76 year old elderly hunter was hard of hearing, and was reportedly hunting with his son-in-law and two grandkids as the incident unfolded around 7:30 am. Details were sketchy at best, but the entire community is upset, as well as most hunters I've talked with. Do you really have to put a "killing" shot on an elderly man on his own land, or just regroup and serve the papers on the same residence later? P*** poor judgement, as far as I'm concerned!

Let us remember him and his family in their time of loss.


http://www.myfox8.com/wghp-hunter-ki...,4986126.story


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Old April 13, 2009, 09:37 AM   #2
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Refraining from opining on this until further release of details...
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Old April 13, 2009, 10:02 AM   #3
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+1 on the sketchyness. im still a lil ticked off. but well see what happens when theres more info out there
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Old April 13, 2009, 01:35 PM   #4
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Officer kills hunter Saturday morning
by Chuck Hubbard
(Photo caption) Patricia Anderson/staff photo-Lenoir man shot—A hunter from Lenoir was killed Saturday by a wildlife officer in a wooded area above this home on Cane Creek Road in the McGrady community.

A hunter was shot and killed by a state wildlife officer in a steeply-sloped, wooded area off of Cane Creek Church Road in the McGrady community Saturday morning, authorities say.
Officer Mark Minton, a 12-year veteran with the N.C. Wildlife Resources Commission, shot 77-year-old Clyde Coffey of Lenoir with his service revolver, according to Capt. Steve Cabe, chief of detectives for the Wilkes Sheriff's Department.
Coffey died at the scene of a gunshot wound to the chest, Medical Examiner Denise Johnson said. A sheriff's department report indicated that deputies were sent to the scene at 7:35 a.m.
The shooting took place in a wooded area above a home on Cane Creek which was owned by the Coffey family, Cabe said.
Saturday was the opening day of spring wild turkey season and Minton was investigating a report of people hunting over an illegally baited field, Cabe said. Wildlife officers were investigating several reports of baited fields in Wilkes County, he noted.
Capt. Rusty Hunter of the N.C. Wildlife Commission told members of the media that Minton was acting in self-defense when he shot Coffey. "There is no evidence to suggest the officer confused the hunter with an animal," he said.
Penny Miller, a spokesman for the wildlife agency, said Minton is on administrative leave pending completion of an investigation by the State Bureau of Investigation. This is standard procedure following a shooting involving an officer, she said. Ms. Miller declined to say why Minton shot Coffey.
Hunter's comments were based on initial reports he received, Ms. Miller said. She said the wildlife agency is standing behind Hunter's statement that the shooting was self-defense.
Sgt. Joven Greene of the sheriff's department, along with deputies David Golden and Earl Byrd, came to the scene after receiving a report from the Wilkes County Communications Center that an officer needed assistance, Cabe said. Wildlife officers then came to the scene and requested that the SBI conduct an investigation.
Jennifer Canada, a spokesman for the SBI, confirmed that the agency is investigating the shooting. She declined to comment on any details with regard to the nature of the shooting.
She said all findings from the investigation will be handed over to District Attorney Tom Horner's office.
Assistant District Attorney Fred Bauer said this morning that it is premature to form any opinion at to the nature of the shooting at this point. "The SBI's investigation is far from complete."
The district attorney's office will make a decision about the case after a final report is received from the SBI, Bauer said.
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Old April 13, 2009, 02:47 PM   #5
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I want to hear the wardens testimony. These writeups sound like reporters makin up b.s. to try and hide a lack of information because there really is none besides the hunter is dead and the warden is on leave while being investigated. Maybe i should be a reporter i got that across pretty quick
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Old April 13, 2009, 03:06 PM   #6
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I am wondering if the warden was in uniform. I can see how the old man wouild be ****** about a tresspasser on his property.

A situation like this couild esclate pretty quick. The man confronts the trespasser (warden), the trespasser (warden) draws his pistol, the old man raises his shot gun in self defense, and the warden shoots that old man in "self defence."

In the end it doesnt matter if the warden was in uniform or not. Self defense is self defense when your a sworn officer. With that being said, the warden should have used better judgement in this situation.

The DNR could have investigated the field by plane, on foot at night, or with a warrant and several officers/wardens. Invesgigating with one warden, on foot and during a hunting season is not very smart. The DNR will be sued big!
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Old April 13, 2009, 03:12 PM   #7
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Hmmmmm

Time will tell

Condolences to the guys family & loved ones
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Old April 13, 2009, 03:19 PM   #8
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"Condolences to the guys family & loved ones"
Agreed
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Old April 13, 2009, 03:59 PM   #9
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There is not enough information here to pass judgement one way or the other. I am a LEO and get tired of armchair quarterbacks second guessing every situation requiring force. Yes, it is entirely possible that the officer overreacted and the situation could have been handled differently. It is also entirely possible that the deceased hunter threatened the officer, even if he was in uniform. A shotgun in the hands of a 70 + year old hunter is just as deadly as a shotgun in the hands of a 20 year old gang-banger. If a crime was being investigated, it does not matter a bit if it was private property or not. I feel bad for the deceased individual and his family, but will have to withold judgement until MUCH more information that was presented here is available.
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Old April 13, 2009, 04:06 PM   #10
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Prayers lifted up for the family of the deceased and the Officer.
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Old April 13, 2009, 04:39 PM   #11
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Anyone who gets an update, please post it.
I am very interested in this case.
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Old April 13, 2009, 04:51 PM   #12
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Wow. seems there are no true facts here yet. How can anyone just jump to conclusion either way.
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Old April 13, 2009, 05:01 PM   #13
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Roklok,

I was simply setting a scenario which could have lead to the incident. My statements were not intended to defend the hunter, but merely speculate on what may have happened. I am fully aware of the laws that allow LEO's to use deadly force. It was unfortunate that the warden was in the position where he had to use deadly force to defend himself.

Below are some definitions that would justify the wardens actions.



Justification for deadly force: “any behavior that an officer reasonably believes has caused or imminently threatens to cause death or great bodily harm to you or another person or persons.”

Imminence: “about to happen. For a subjects threat to be considered imminent, it must meet three criteria; Intent, Weapon, and delivery system.”
Danger Zones:
Unarmed person: 0- 10ft
Club or Edged weapon: 0- 21ft
Firearm: line of sight unbroken by cover

There are many other factors involved in the decision to use deadly force
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Old April 13, 2009, 05:32 PM   #14
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Let's let this one ride until some useful information comes out. Then, re-start.
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